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Old 06-17-2012, 11:57 AM   #11
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I would be very surprised this would work, being an electrician I would only pull 3 wires and a ground (2 hots and 1 neutral) to the 2 outlets. By code they have to be on separate phase's to balance the neutral load.
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I would be very surprised this would work, being an electrician I would only pull 3 wires and a ground (2 hots and 1 neutral) to the 2 outlets. By code they have to be on separate phase's to balance the neutral load.
Is canadian Electric diffèrent ? just kidding !
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Old 06-17-2012, 12:10 PM   #13
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I actually think the US code is slowly catching up...
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Old 06-17-2012, 12:15 PM   #14
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And we wonder why campers burn down. I think I know the answer.
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Old 06-17-2012, 12:19 PM   #15
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now windrider that cannot possibly be the case !

You know no one modifies there electrical system in some weird way to get power .

like
a 220 volt 30 amp rv plug in
or 100 foot 14 ga power cord
or even better yet flipping breakers every ten minutes thinking it will automatically solve the issue of tripping breakers .

lol come on !
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And we wonder why campers burn down. I think I know the answer.
That would be specifically why I would build an external adapter rather than hacking up your panel and rv as in the original post.

For fun I'll get my staff to make up a prototype some time in the next few weeks.

Since we can also certify equipment I might go so far as to have our other facility throw a UL and CSA certification on it for all of ya
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That would be specifically why I would build an external adapter rather than hacking up your panel and rv as in the original post.

For fun I'll get my staff to make up a prototype some time in the next few weeks.

Since we can also certify equipment I might go so far as to have our other facility throw a UL and CSA certification on it for all of ya
Cant wait to see this !
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I've seen some crazy things with UL and CSA certification on it, mostly lighting though.

I guess if he adds self voltage testing with a built in relay to energize the second leg with smart technology to ensure it is plugged in it may work. I think the price point would be higher than anyone would want to pay though.
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Of course now my device will have to become more complicated for it to be certified. It will have to contain a bunch of idiot proofing
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Actually I was talking about pulling from two different 15a circuits - since none of the appliances are 240v there should be no issue even if both 15a circuits you pull from are on the same phase. If you read the link back to the original post the OP installed a relay and a second 15a input for his trailer so he could draw on 2 x 15a circuits when available but that got me thinking in terms of simply making a Y adapter vs modifying your panel. Last two campsites I was at btw had no 30a, only 15a, but did in fact have two duplexes per post each with its own 15a breaker.

OP's original goal was to be able to run AC and microwave at the same time when presented with 2 x 15a circuit

Only safety issue would be if you only plugged one of the male 15a Edison's in - the unplugged one would be hot. Could come up with a work around for that when I have my morning coffee.

FYI - TQ electrician here as well.
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