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Old 05-03-2012, 12:18 AM   #11
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On our '02 Georgetown, there are heater elements on both the black and grey tanks but not on the potable water tank. According to the supplier documentation, they are 12V DC elements and draw about 7 amps for each tank.

When the Arctic Pack (spelled by GT as "Artic!) the non-adjustable, built-in thermostats turn the elements on when they sense the contents are dropping below 40F and off again when the contents get to 65F. Who the hell needs to heat up the poop in the black tank to 65 degrees?! With that level of contamination, the contents probably wouldn't freeze until about 25F anyway.

Since nothing's adjustable and the whole system looks like a riduclous waste of money on the part of the original purchasers (particularly for the Pacific Northwest climate), I don't plan to ever switch it on.

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Old 05-03-2012, 12:27 AM   #12
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I only used our once and more than likely didn't need it .

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Old 05-03-2012, 07:30 AM   #13
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Frozen poo is horrible to deal with. I think the arctic package is kinda like 4 wheel drive. IMO better to have and not need, than need and not have.
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:40 PM   #14
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I guess if you only use it to unfreeze what froze, it might be worth the extra cash. We wouldn't consider using the RV in conditions cold enough to freeze the contents of the black tank.

I was more concerned about the effects of heating the "poo" to 65F and also the risk of the heater getting an empty tank hot enough to met through. If the "on" and "off" settings were more like the frost-stats that are used on water pipes (on at 34 and off at 38) it would make more sense.

Still, a 14 or 21 Amp drain on the house batteries isn't a good idea for any length of time.
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Old 05-12-2012, 04:12 PM   #15
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I have the heater on my Cherokee 29z and it has come in handy more often than not. I have been using my trailer all winter ad at one point we had a surprise snow storm. Had about a foot of snow hit us. The water hose it's self froze because I didn't get the remaining water out after filling the holding tank but I never had a problem with the rest of the water system a single time. Aside from the snow storm we experienced several days where the hi was under 35 degrees with no snow. I would recommend to anyone who has the opportunity to camp in areas where the potential is there so that if needed, you are safe. Like the previous post about 4x4. Better safe than sorry.
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:14 PM   #16
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They do work on 12v. My trailer came with them. I've put them on in the winter but don't think they came on very much. Last year, I pulled the underbelly cover. They are taped to the bottom of the tank. Sense there were no signs of anything melting, I don't believe the get hot enough to melt the tanks. I havent turned them on in the past couple years. I don't camp in extreme temps...except the first time out.

Keep that 12volts in mind if u ever do any dry camping.

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