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07-06-2011, 05:26 PM
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Breaker popping
We have had to run our water heater on elec and with the AC on we cannot make coffee and run any hot water at the same time or the breaker pops. Is there something wrong with the way ours is wired or do they always put the water heater and the AC on the same breaker along with the kitchen counter outlets? Quite a pain that we have never experienced with our other campers. Any info would be appreciated.
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07-06-2011, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ilovecamping
We have had to run our water heater on elec and with the AC on we cannot make coffee and run any hot water at the same time or the breaker pops. Is there something wrong with the way ours is wired or do they always put the water heater and the AC on the same breaker along with the kitchen counter outlets? Quite a pain that we have never experienced with our other campers. Any info would be appreciated.
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No, sounds normal. The electric element in the hot water heater takes quite a number of amps, so does the AC. A coffee maker, hair dryer, and microwaves are also amp hogs. When we make coffee or DW dries her hair and we are running the electric water heater, we shut off the AC until we complete that task. We use a coffee maker with an insulated metal decanter so there is not a warming plate.
If you have any doubts, borrow a small generator and connect a hair dryer to it and turn it on... the generator will sound very unhappy.
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07-06-2011, 05:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovecamping
Is there something wrong with the way ours is wired or do they always put the water heater and the AC on the same breaker along with the kitchen counter outlets?
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Are you sure all of those are on the same breaker ?? I don't think they should be.
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07-06-2011, 06:00 PM
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On a 30 amp service if you are running the A/C, hot water heater, and a coffee maker you are over the 30 amps. Your main breaker will pop under this load. Your reefer is also using power. The A/C has it own breaker, the HW has its own breaker and the outlet are on their own breaker. There is a 30 amp breaker in the panel that you must be popping.
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07-06-2011, 06:11 PM
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The way I read the OP, all of those items are on the same breaker. Maybe they meant the main breaker instead of the individual circuit breakers.
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07-06-2011, 06:19 PM
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That happens with ours if we run our ac an water heater and our microwave all at the same time our main breaker pops
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07-06-2011, 06:19 PM
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He said-- "water heater on elec and with the AC on we cannot make coffee ".
Sounds normal to me for a 30 amp trailer.
You're close to the limit with just the water heater and the coffee pot perking.
The AC bumps you over on amps.
All ya gotta do is flip off the breaker for the HW heater while you make coffee.
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07-06-2011, 11:55 PM
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Thank you all for explaining. DH says they are on different breakers but the one of them pops. Anyway I guess we never had this issue as we always run the water heater on gas but for some reason it won't lite. We are calling dealer to get the water heater fixed and then we should be good again.
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07-07-2011, 06:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovecamping
We are calling dealer to get the water heater fixed and then we should be good again.
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When you are out there turning off the electric water heater switch check the burner tube for wasp nests or spider webs in the tube.
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07-07-2011, 07:25 AM
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If the water is hot from the electric heater the gas will not lite.
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07-07-2011, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by caper
If the water is hot from the electric heater the gas will not lite.
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Excellent point !!! 
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07-07-2011, 10:19 PM
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DH did clean the tube to get it to lite the first time.
I hadn't thought about the water being hot and it not lighting. It had been turned off most of the day but it was in the 90's so I suppose it may not have cooled off much. We will fill the water heater and try it again. It makes sense and especially since it lit earlier in the day and then nothing.
Thank you all once again.
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07-07-2011, 11:07 PM
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This is exactly what happens to us when running the fridge, hot water heater, and the AC... the 30 amp breaker pops. Any time I am camping in hot weather and using the air conditioner, I always switch the fridge and the hot water heater to gas.
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07-10-2011, 11:30 AM
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caper-A huge thanks to you for your pointer on our water heater. That was it exactly because DH just filled it with water and flipped the switch and it works perfectly. You are a life saver for us as they couldn't get it in for weeks and we are leaving on vacation before that. This forum is wonderful! Again a big THANK YOU!
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