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Old 05-01-2014, 11:48 AM   #41
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There are over 130 gas stations in Concord and only 1 supposedly has it? Don't let it bother you FT, I'm satisfied helping the corn farmers in IA.
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Old 05-01-2014, 12:39 PM   #42
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What, I'm confused. The government mandates CAFE fuel economy standards "to reduce engery consumption by increasing fuel economy..." yet adding ethenol to gasoline, decreases fuel economy, causing more fuel to be burned, damage to some smaller equipment, creating more polutants to arrive at your destination. But, how can this be, my government can't not know what its doing, that's impossible. Please tell me that since we now have more known oil reserves than saudi arabia Oil Exec Says US Has More Oil And Gas Than Saudi Arabia...In Alaska that we will come to our senses.
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Old 05-01-2014, 12:50 PM   #43
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I'm not familiar with the mandates, but in a way, adding ethanol can be viewed as improving 'fossil fuel' economy.

Let's say you get 10 mpg with regular gas. Running 10% ethanol you might be getting only 9.8 mpg. But, if you look at the 'fossil fuel' part, you got ~10.9 mpgs per gallon of fossil fuel. Thereby in fact lessening the reliance on non-renewable sources.

Just a way to twist the numbers...

Personally, I figure we drive trucks (or SUVs for some of ya'll) so a little hit or miss on MPGs aren't going to be a big deal. If I was really worried about how much gas I use, I'd go back to driving my 55 MPG Saturn SC1 instead of my 9 mpg Ram 1500.
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Old 05-01-2014, 01:01 PM   #44
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I'm not familiar with the mandates, but in a way, adding ethanol can be viewed as improving 'fossil fuel' economy.

Let's say you get 10 mpg with regular gas. Running 10% ethanol you might be getting only 9.8 mpg. But, if you look at the 'fossil fuel' part, you got ~10.9 mpgs per gallon of fossil fuel. Thereby in fact lessening the reliance on non-renewable sources.

Just a way to twist the numbers...

Personally, I figure we drive trucks (or SUVs for some of ya'll) so a little hit or miss on MPGs aren't going to be a big deal. If I was really worried about how much gas I use, I'd go back to driving my 55 MPG Saturn SC1 instead of my 9 mpg Ram 1500.
How does the cost of repairs figure into this ? Lol

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ETHANOL ate at the glue which holds in the welch plugs on the carburetor.
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Old 05-01-2014, 01:14 PM   #45
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...STIHL has a service bulletin out on this issue.TURBS
Looks like STIHL needs to get with the program.

I know you won't believe this, but most folks don't have a bunch of chainsaws. I've got an Poulan that's 10 yrs old and it doesn't know anything but 10% ethanol. So, we just drive our old gassers using ethanol.

Been using ethanol blended since the late 70's when I got the first tank full in Knoxville, IA. So, in 35+ years I have not had a fuel problem. Burned 100% methanol in our race cars and never had a problem. I think most 2 cycle problems could be traced to folks not adding oil to the gas.
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IMHO, ethanol in gasoline has only 1 advantage. The days of gasoline "freezing" from water in the lines from a freshly filled tank are less now a days. Remember, we used to add "gas line antifreeze" to our gasoline in years past ?? It was different types of alcohol. Alcohol suspends the water particles in gas, so the water doesn't all settle to the bottom of the tank and freeze in the lines. We are adding "gas line antifreeze" every time we fill up.
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IMHO, ethanol in gasoline has only 1 advantage. The days of gasoline "freezing" from water in the lines from a freshly filled tank are less now a days. Remember, we used to add "gas line antifreeze" to our gasoline in years past ?? It was different types of alcohol. Alcohol suspends the water particles in gas, so the water doesn't all settle to the bottom of the tank and freeze in the lines. We are adding "gas line antifreeze" every time we fill up.
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How does the cost of repairs figure into this ? Lol

To the government causing you repairs is a good thing. They'd call it something like "stimulating the economy" but all it really does it let them charge you more sales tax by getting you to spend more.
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Looks like STIHL needs to get with the program.

I know you won't believe this, but most folks don't have a bunch of chainsaws. I've got an Poulan that's 10 yrs old and it doesn't know anything but 10% ethanol. So, we just drive our old gassers using ethanol.

Been using ethanol blended since the late 70's when I got the first tank full in Knoxville, IA. So, in 35+ years I have not had a fuel problem. Burned 100% methanol in our race cars and never had a problem. I think most 2 cycle problems could be traced to folks not adding oil to the gas.
Worlds leading manufacturer of chainsaws "get with it"?

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Old 05-01-2014, 02:04 PM   #50
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i live in iowa the ethanol capital of the world i believe.
most everything is either 87 octain or 93 the big conveinient store caseys chain got rid of there 89 octain ethonal blend and went to 87 octain with a 87 non ethanol thats it , thats all they sell were i live and then there is E85- 85% ethnol, i would drop about 3.5 miles per gallon when i used it, it was ok when there was a $1.10 a gallon differance now its about 40 cents
now i don't have that problem bought a Diesel now we can get into the whole bio diesel thing
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