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Old 01-16-2018, 11:55 PM   #1
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Unhappy Expensive water connections

We had a water leak in the storage compartment in our 5th wheel. It's a 2016 Prime Time Crusader. My husband spent a lot of time crawling under there, testing areas and looking for the leak. We took it to Lazy Days finally and they discovered the water connectors (8 of them) on the water lines had come apart causing the leaks. Cost to repair estimated to be around $450-500. That's so expensive for a relatively new rv. I contacted our extended warranty company but "water connections" was explicitly not covered. the next route was to call Forest Rv/Primetime to see if they might be able to offer some coverage. Yes, I know it's out of warranty but things like that just shouldn't happen. Side note: We use a pressure regulator whenever we have water hooked up. They came back after a couple of weeks and several phone calls with a "no" they could not help us.
Lazy Days fixed the connections and even helped us out by cutting the repair work in half. Thank you Lazy Days in Tucson.
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Over pressurization? Do you use a water pressure regulator??
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The fittings in our RVs are the same as a home. The fittings can handle upwards of 160psi and above without blowing apart. So using a regulator or not won’t cause this. It’s shoddy work that failed.

It’s a sad thing that we spend so much money on RVs and the warranty’s are for such a short amount of time.
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It sounds like the crimps may have been done by a new person. Not having them positioned correctly or crimped properly will cause this exact problem.
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From post #1: "Side note: We use a pressure regulator whenever we have water hooked up."
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Old 01-17-2018, 11:14 AM   #6
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The fittings in our RVs are the same as a home. The fittings can handle upwards of 160psi and above without blowing apart. So using a regulator or not won’t cause this. It’s shoddy work that failed.

It’s a sad thing that we spend so much money on RVs and the warranty’s are for such a short amount of time.
You're right. A regulator won't CAUSE this. But it may PREVENT this. Too many stories on here of fittings coming apart by folks NOT using a regulator to NOT use a regulator. Cheap insurance.
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Old 01-20-2018, 09:04 AM   #7
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We always use a pressure regulator. Also bought an extended warranty plan. However they don't cover anything that is a connection problem. So no help there. Lazy Days repair did give us a great discount. Took 4 hours and they charged us for 2. Still over $300.
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If you don’t have a regulator turn water 1/2 on and this will turn down the water pressure.
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If you don’t have a regulator turn water 1/2 on and this will turn down the water pressure.
No, it won't.
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If you don’t have a regulator turn water 1/2 on and this will turn down the water pressure.


That’s actually incorrect... all that will do is lower the VOLUME of water allowed through.

The pressure from the source is the pressure. It may seem like lower pressure doing what you suggest but once all the taps are off the pressure will build up in the RVs plumbing pipes to the exact pressure allowed out of the source.
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The temperature / pressure re-leaf valve in the hot water tank should pop off before any plumbing damage will occur due to high pressures. They are set at 150 PSI. A properly installed PEX piping system has a operating pressure of 160 PSI.

What they are using in the construction of our units???
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If your going to really worry about pressures. Then purchasing a screw on regulator at Walmart that says it is rated at 45 psi is not the way to go. Get one that at a minimum has a gauge to see what your regulator static pressure is and your flow pressure. Even better get one you can adjust. Adjust it on your home water system so you can get an accurate reading, before taking it to a campground.

I have our regulator set to 55 psi maximum. The RV park we are currently at hits 55 psi setting static but drops to 40 flowing. Have no Idea what the absolute static pressure is on the system, really don't care as long as my regulator is working.
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The temperature / pressure re-leaf valve in the hot water tank should pop off before any plumbing damage will occur due to high pressures. They are set at 150 PSI. A properly installed PEX piping system has a operating pressure of 160 PSI.



What they are using in the construction of our units???


Upunor which is the best rated PEX piping on the market is rated @ 150psi just like the T&P valve of a water heater. The fittings used in the RVs are just thrown together on an assembly line so failure is absolutely going to happen.
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Expensive water connections

Jimlittle did Lazy Days say what was wrong with the fittings? They should have been able to give you some kind of info. Crimps on crooked, not crimped tight, cracked fittings. Etc curious to know.

What did they use to replace the fittings?
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Upunor which is the best rated PEX piping on the market is rated @ 150psi just like the T&P valve of a water heater. The fittings used in the RVs are just thrown together on an assembly line so failure is absolutely going to happen.
No No All PEX B is rated at 160 PSI 33*F to 70*F (Working Pressure)

Lets not get into a P-Contest this is all published info.
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Did you read the post above?
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I don't know about the OP's RV but our Palomino trailer is not all PEX. They use vinyl water hose in many areas with hose clamp fittings. I have always been suspect of these and it is part of my semi-annual checks to go through and make sure the hose clamps are tight.
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Did you read the post above?
Well, since the "post above" that you are referencing is post #15, and my post that you quoted is post #2, I have to admit: No, I did NOT read post #15 before writing post #2. (I'm not THAT good!)

However, in response to post #15 and your question: just because the PEX is good to 160 psi doesn't mean the fittings, connections, faucets, filter housings, etc., are good to 160 psi. A poorly made connection may take 45 psig OK, but not 75 psig. It's the weakest link that will get you. Hence, a regulator CAN prevent leaks.
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Well, since the "post above" that you are referencing is post #15, and my post that you quoted is post #2, I have to admit: No, I did NOT read post #15 before writing post #2. (I'm not THAT good!)

However, in response to post #15 and your question: just because the PEX is good to 160 psi doesn't mean the fittings, connections, faucets, filter housings, etc., are good to 160 psi. A poorly made connection may take 45 psig OK, but not 75 psig. It's the weakest link that will get you. Hence, a regulator CAN prevent leaks.
I read post #2 and quoted your #2 and my "Above" reference was to post #1.
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I read post #2 and quoted your #2 and my "Above" reference was to post #1.
OK. Second part of my response is still applicable to either post.

Next time, to prevent confusions, I would suggest you specify which "above post" you are referring to.
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