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Old 03-22-2019, 11:43 AM   #1
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First doubt of FR build quality

We have been very satisfied with everything about our 2018 2104S until yesterday. I installed a digital thermostat and was pleased to see the industrial quality closed end crimp connectors as I am not a fan of wire nuts for permanent connections . Unfortunately they crimped them with what looked like pliers and these need to be crimped with a Klein type of electrical pliers. One wire came out of the connector when I pulled them out of the wall and the other 5 pulled off easily by hand. Picture attached. This is a 12 volt system by I am now concerned about every wire this person may have crimped especially on the 110 volt. I will look behind the fuse box and look for more of these.
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Old 03-22-2019, 06:43 PM   #2
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When we first got our RV we put something in the front storage and banged a wire those crimps I came right apart. The reason I found out we banged the wires because the landing gear did not work and then figured out that’s what it was. I have the wires protected now. They were exposed before.
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Old 03-22-2019, 06:53 PM   #3
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I don't like those connectors in production assembly, simply because it's so easy to not crimp them correctly. I'd rather have wire-nuts in that scenario. They're prone to not having the wires inserted correctly, but they're not prone to bad crimps.

I've changed all the crimp connectors on our RV to lever connectors, because, as you did, I found several that weren't crimped correctly.
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I hate those connectors as well. The best are heat shrink crimp connectors with built in sealant. You of course need to use a quality crimper. Just don't solder...worst thing you can do on an RV with all the vibration. On second thought, wire nuts are worse than soldering. They are not be used in a vibration environment either.



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This type of connector is an industrial standard where wire nuts are prohibited. They are very reliable if crimped properly. The final test is to give each wire a good pull to verify all wires are crimped. These connections were poorly made and I wonder how many heart aches this person caused with his poor craftsmanship. Gives the company a bad name. Hard to find good skilled labor now a days.
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Here are the T&B Sta-Kon pliers we use in the electrical trade. Very high leverage crimping tool.
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Here are the T&B Sta-Kon pliers we use in the electrical trade. Very high leverage crimping tool.
That’s the proper tool!
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We have been very satisfied with everything about our 2018 2104S until yesterday. I installed a digital thermostat and was pleased to see the industrial quality closed end crimp connectors as I am not a fan of wire nuts for permanent connections . Unfortunately they crimped them with what looked like pliers and these need to be crimped with a Klein type of electrical pliers. One wire came out of the connector when I pulled them out of the wall and the other 5 pulled off easily by hand. Picture attached. This is a 12 volt system by I am now concerned about every wire this person may have crimped especially on the 110 volt. I will look behind the fuse box and look for more of these.


Check your 7 pin connector junction box under the front of the trailer. Mine was full of these. I put a new cord on to get a little extra length and every connector pretty much fell off in my hand.
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In my 2018 Cherokee all the junctions for the 120V system is push connectors. Had a neutral fall out of one our first season and it took out most of our 120v outlets.
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