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08-25-2018, 09:16 PM
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Generator inverter question re: parallel
If you have a Honda 2000 generator inverter, can you run in parallel with say a predator 2000? In others words can you run two different brands in parallel? Thanks!
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08-25-2018, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by johncarm84
If you have a Honda 2000 generator inverter, can you run in parallel with say a predator 2000? In others words can you run two different brands in parallel? Thanks!
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Nope, not recommended.
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08-26-2018, 01:36 AM
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Generator inverter question re: parallel
Instead of buying another Honda 2000 spend a little less and get a predator 3500. Mine is quieter than the Honda 2000 and powers my ac and microwave at the same time. It’s been flawless for many many hours. I make trips out to the desert during the high 90’s and my ac runs for days without stoping. I sold my Honda 2000 and never looked back.
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08-26-2018, 07:22 AM
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Thanks! I have researched the predator 3500 and I believe that included some of your posts. I have the Predator 3500 on my wish list; however, I have an opportunity to pick up a Honda 2000 for a very good price. At the very least; I could buy the Honda and then sell, buy the predator 3500 and still have some $$ in my pocket.
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08-26-2018, 07:40 AM
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probably not due to generator output 'sine wave' not being the same/similar between two different makes/models - we had the two Hondas back in 2014 for our 5vr, and I set them up in parallel maybe once, as we only kept the RV for just over 1 1/2 months. After we traded to a '15 Georgetown Class A with it's onboard generator, I easily sold the two companion Hondas, and quickly, on craigslist.
Having the 'companion' to the Honda gives you the 30amp outlet, versus only the two or so 15/20amp residential 120v outlets otherwise. I'm not sure that the parallel would be as desirable if the second unit didn't have the 30amp outlet.
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08-26-2018, 11:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by formerFR
probably not due to generator output 'sine wave' not being the same/similar between two different makes/models - we had the two Hondas back in 2014 for our 5vr, and I set them up in parallel maybe once, as we only kept the RV for just over 1 1/2 months. After we traded to a '15 Georgetown Class A with it's onboard generator, I easily sold the two companion Hondas, and quickly, on craigslist.
Having the 'companion' to the Honda gives you the 30amp outlet, versus only the two or so 15/20amp residential 120v outlets otherwise. I'm not sure that the parallel would be as desirable if the second unit didn't have the 30amp outlet.
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08-26-2018, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by johncarm84
Thanks! I have researched the predator 3500 and I believe that included some of your posts. I have the Predator 3500 on my wish list; however, I have an opportunity to pick up a Honda 2000 for a very good price. At the very least; I could buy the Honda and then sell, buy the predator 3500 and still have some $$ in my pocket.
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Sound - Honda advertised is 53dB, Predator is 57dB. Both are very quiet.
Weight - Honda is 45lbs, Predator is 99lbs.
Output - Honda is 2000 watt surge and 1600 watt continuous. Predator is 3500 watt surge and 3000 watt continuous.
There are many opinions about this topic...Here is mine. Most of the time one EU2000 does what I need and rarely do I run two. When I do run two I get 3200 watts available at the 30amp plug on the companion generator. I'm a bit older and while I can still lift 100lbs I am sure it would only be a matter of time until I tweaked something lifting the 3500 (or any 3000 watt generator) in and out of my truck. I prefer the lighter EU 2000 for this reason alone.
I don't regret having 2 EU2000 vs the EU3000 or any other higher output generator. If I were you I would buy the 2000 and see what it does for you. Mine even runs the AC, at least it did for a short time when I first got them. When I feel like I need AC I do run both but really that is the only time.
For what it is worth.
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08-26-2018, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoyt
I'm a bit older and while I can still lift 100lbs I am sure it would only be a matter of time until I tweaked something lifting the 3500 (or any 3000 watt generator) in and out of my truck. I prefer the lighter EU 2000 for this reason alone.
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Come the first of the year I'll hit 76 so I guess that qualifies me as a "bit older"
I can still lift my Champion 3500w Inverter (~100#) but it's a challenge after my open heart surgery a year ago. To make it easier I just installed a $97 pickup bed Crane in one corner of my truck's bed. Only weighs 60# so it wasn't a big addition to the weight of the truck. Works slick and I use it to load/unload my Inverter although most of the time I just leave it in the truck and use a matching extension to my trailer power cord. The crane is so easy to use I can also use it to lift in or out a full fuel can. Anyone who's had open heart surgery can tell you how heavy a simple 5-6 gallon fuel container can feel when lifting it up to a pickup bed
When I'm not using the crane it swings out of the way and locks in a stored position next to the bed rail and fits under my hard tonneau cover with ease.
When my inverter is charging batteries it runs on "Economy" mode and uses very little fuel. If I want to use the AC it quickly switches to regular mode and makes things cool inside. No need to bring out a second generator and rig it with a parallel kit. Total cost for the Inverter and Crane was just over $1100. A few $$ more than some similar Inverter/generators and a lot fewer $$ than others. The fact that I only have one unit to fuel, start, maintain is a benefit and to put "two cherries on top" it's dual fuel and electric start.
As far as "Parallel" goes, it can be mated with another unit for almost 6kw of continuous power.
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08-26-2018, 02:15 PM
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Me too
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Originally Posted by deepseadan
Instead of buying another Honda 2000 spend a little less and get a predator 3500. Mine is quieter than the Honda 2000 and powers my ac and microwave at the same time. It’s been flawless for many many hours. I make trips out to the desert during the high 90’s and my ac runs for days without stoping. I sold my Honda 2000 and never looked back. Attachment 184405
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I did the exact same thing. So far, Predator runs flawlessly and is quieter running AC and microwave at same time than 2 Hondas in parallel running just AC. Sold 1 Honda 2000i for $550 and paid $699 for Predator. (I had shared the 2nd 2000 with a Bro-in-law, long story😳
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08-26-2018, 02:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoyt
Sound - Honda advertised is 53dB, Predator is 57dB. Both are very quiet.
Weight - Honda is 45lbs, Predator is 99lbs.
Output - Honda is 2000 watt surge and 1600 watt continuous. Predator is 3500 watt surge and 3000 watt continuous.
There are many opinions about this topic...Here is mine. Most of the time one EU2000 does what I need and rarely do I run two. When I do run two I get 3200 watts available at the 30amp plug on the companion generator. I'm a bit older and while I can still lift 100lbs I am sure it would only be a matter of time until I tweaked something lifting the 3500 (or any 3000 watt generator) in and out of my truck. I prefer the lighter EU 2000 for this reason alone.
I don't regret having 2 EU2000 vs the EU3000 or any other higher output generator. If I were you I would buy the 2000 and see what it does for you. Mine even runs the AC, at least it did for a short time when I first got them. When I feel like I need AC I do run both but really that is the only time.
For what it is worth.
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You are right on the weight. The predator does have wheels though which helps if you have a ramp door. I’m lucky I still have a strong teenage to help team lift.
I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure you have to parallel the Honda 3000 and 2000 to get the full 30 amps. Otherwise it’s 26.6. The predator 3500 puts out 25 Amps, so for me the 1.6 difference isn’t worth dealing with two generators running, worrying about how much gas each and the other parallel stuff.
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08-26-2018, 08:25 PM
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Weight of Predator is 133 lbs . I love mine just let it sit in back of truck. And do it’s thing.
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08-27-2018, 05:31 AM
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Really Really like my Predator 3500. Operate it and have it mounted on reinforced rear hitch/bumper - load and unload with tractor front end loader. Also carry a Honda 1000 for those times I only need to recharge battery and want a quieter and more efficient Generator. Yes I know, I'm over genned but already had the Honda so I put it to use.
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08-28-2018, 06:15 AM
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Easy Start
Easy Start from MicroAir claims you can start a 15 AC with a Honda 2000. Has anyone out there tried it? Honda now makes a 2200 generator. We got two for the houseboat, and it runs the 1/3 h.p. swamp cooler and the microwave at the same time. Never hooked up both. We also got the extended run kit. What a treat. Fill up the six gallon boat tank, and it will run for 24 hours or more.
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08-28-2018, 08:18 AM
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My EU2000i did start my AC. I only tried it 1 time for about 15 minutes when I first got them. I haven't been able to determine what BTU rating my AC is, but it also runs fine on a 15amp circuit from my garage. Because of this I suspect it is a smaller unit. Either that or there is an easy start condenser in it. The trailer is a 2013 Rockwood 2604WS. I know there are others who prefer different brands, but I am super happy with the pair of Hondas.
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08-29-2018, 02:46 PM
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I installed the Microair on my 15000 AC and at my altitude (4900ft) one Honda 2000 will not run it. The newer Honda 2200 might but I am not sure. I did make it possible to run the AC with a 20amp house circuit however which made it nice to work on the trailer when it is hot outside or clean it without running generators.
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08-29-2018, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rocco52
I installed the Microair on my 15000 AC and at my altitude (4900ft) one Honda 2000 will not run it. The newer Honda 2200 might but I am not sure. I did make it possible to run the AC with a 20amp house circuit however which made it nice to work on the trailer when it is hot outside or clean it without running generators.
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I can run my 15,000 btu on 20 amp no issues . no extra start help . can't understand why others can't
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08-29-2018, 04:15 PM
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I can run either of my 15k ACs on a 20 amp cuircuit. I have a 3100 Dometic inverter generator (no longer use) that would run a 13k no problem. Never tried it on a 15k. The problem with running and AC in an RV is there are other loads, like the battery charger, that will trip the breaker when you power on the AC. Make sure your batteries are full charge, then turn on AC. An EMS can alert you to power draws on your system.
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08-29-2018, 04:39 PM
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Thanks Rocco52 for the reply. Good to know before I purchase. We live at 5000 feet and camp much higher. Unfortunately, the 2200's belong to the houseboat, so I can't use them on my trailer. Where I live, a swamp cooler works pretty well, and I have a small portable one. I guess I'll continue to use that when we boondock.
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08-29-2018, 06:31 PM
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Generator inverter question re: parallel
Since you guys are talking about using generators at altitude, I’ll write my experience. We went to twin lakes campground 8600ft in mammoth back in the beginning of July. I was concerned how my predator 3500 would power my ac or microwave since we had to dry camp. To my surprise it ran it ran absolutely perfect and did run my a/c and microwave at the same time. It also ran the a/c at the same time as pulling 7 amps to charge my batteries. It’s nice cause the predator 3500 has a digital readout which tells you watt draw, amp draw, hours and something else which I can’t remember off the top of my head. Just in case any of you predator 3500 guys are wondering how it’ll run at 8600ft. I knew I was searching the internet for info before my trip.
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