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Old 05-11-2013, 11:15 AM   #1
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How do you find level?

I know how to use a level, but when trying to level our new trailer so that the fridge is level we discovered that nothi g is perfectly flat. The floor gives different readings depending on where you put the level. The counters are clearly not level. The floor of the fridge is lumpy. The bottom of the freezer is the flattest thing we could find.

What does the wisdom of the forum say is the best way to determine level? (After we get it level once we will out the stick on levels in place.). Thanks!
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:24 AM   #2
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Many years ago I was told that you should go by the floor of the freezer. I got a small target level (a round level a little bigger than a quarter) and put it in the center of the freezer floor. Once I leveled the coach to that, I put stick on levels on the cabinet above the refrigerator- one facing front and one facing toward the side so I can easily check to make sure I am level. I have been doing it that way for 30 years without any problems.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:26 AM   #3
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I gave up on level.. Every level I buy at the hardware store leaks and ends up with a little bubble in it. I just guess now.
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My old freezer had a spot that says level here. Now, I take an average over a few places. 1/2 a bubble is close enough for government work.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:56 AM   #5
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Freezer floor it is. That does seem to be the flattest place we could find. We setup using an average of spots on the floor this time so the freezer floor is slightly off from that. I'm sure it's fine, but I don't want to put on our stick ons until it is more level. Thanks for the advice. The forum wisdom is always great.

RB, all my levels seem to have bubbles as well so I think there must be something wrong at the factory. :-)
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:06 PM   #6
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Freezer floor it is. That does seem to be the flattest place we could find. We setup using an average of spots on the floor this time so the freezer floor is slightly off from that. I'm sure it's fine, but I don't want to put on our stick ons until it is more level. Thanks for the advice. The forum wisdom is always great.

RB, all my levels seem to have bubbles as well so I think there must be something wrong at the factory. :-)
I have both a 12 inch torpedo level and a little round disc level. I start with the tongue when leveling. When done, I check the counter next to the door, and confirmed that I didn't twist the camper when dropping the stabs, and then check the freezer floor. All 3 of those spots are pretty close on my unit when it is level.
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why would the floor of the freezer be the reference gauge for level?

doesn't make sense to me. the fridge/freezer is an appliance that gets installed into a cabinet. it is leveled and plumbed off the cabinet.

the cabinet/woodwork is installed on the floor and wall of the coach. that cabinet is leveled and plumbed off the floor.

so all reference points goes back to the floor of the coach.

for level, i use a big clear water pitcher. i either put that on the countertop or the floor and level the coach according to the water line. once the water line is leveled, i'm level. water will always find level. gotta love science to keep it simple.
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why would the floor of the freezer be the reference gauge for level?

doesn't make sense to me. the fridge/freezer is an appliance that gets installed into a cabinet. it is leveled and plumbed off the cabinet.

the cabinet/woodwork is installed on the floor and wall of the coach. that cabinet is leveled and plumbed off the floor.

so all reference points goes back to the floor of the coach.

for level, i use a big clear water pitcher. i either put that on the countertop or the floor and level the coach according to the water line. once the water line is leveled, i'm level. water will always find level. gotta love science to keep it simple.
The refrigerator is the main thing you want level. If it is not as close to level as possible (for me less than 1/2 bubble) then you could have issues with the refrigerants crystallizing.
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The refrigerator is the main thing you want level. If it is not as close to level as possible (for me less than 1/2 bubble) then you could have issues with the refrigerants crystallizing.
ok, so it's normally accepted that the fridge is not installed plumb and level to the floor of the coach?

way off level will affect the ammonia levels pooling in the coils and tubing of the fridge. gravity flow of the ammonia fluid into the burn chamber will be slowed down if adversely leveled. otherwise, the system will work just fine.

just like draining of the shower, sinks, toilets. if those aren't level they have issues as well. the greater off level, the greater the issue. all those other systems are installed leveled to the floor of the coach.

using the floor of the freezer as the reference still doesn't make sense to me. besides wastefully leaving the door open during the leveling process, you either need a helper to tell you where it's at or you run back and forth to check a bubble level that fits in the fridge. the smaller the gauge, the less accurate it is. the larger the leveling gauge, the more accurate it will be for the overall coach (it's systems).

this practice makes no sense to me.
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I leveled my coach when the refrigerator was off before I took it out for the first time. I them put 2 small levels one on each side of the corner of the cabinet over the fridge. That way, my wife can tell at a glance if we are level. Makes it a lot easier than going the pitcher route.
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