Originally Posted by jtownstumpjumper
X2.....did this same thing with our 3 step when the rivets started breaking.....earlier this year I replaced the 3 step with a 4 step making it much easier to go up and down for old folks like us....I know the rivet issue will soon be needing repairs so when it happens I'll do the Gr 8 bolts, washers and nylon lock nuts again.
We converted our last trailer from 3-step to 4-step. It was a 2004 KZ Sportsmen. The 3-step lasted from 2004 until I replaced them in 2009 or 2010 with the 4-step. The rivets never fell out of the original steps after all those years of service.
The only reason I converted the KZ steps was to get a few more years out of my original 'knees'. Replacement parts (knees) are not quite as good as the original equipment. You are correct the 4-step made a big difference.
The only reason I have delayed converting the FR from 3-step to a 4-step is the weak mounting arrangement for the step box. The KZ had 4 studs dropping out of the floor for the step box (like every trailer I owned before). I removed the 4 nuts from the studs, dropped the 3-step box and easily replaced with the 4-step box.
If not for the fact FR only provided 2 of the 4 studs I would have already converted from 3-step to 4-step. Having little faith in the '2-stud' mountings for the step box under the FR 8265WS, I am considering converting to the aluminum steps.
As mentioned, my 2012 only has 2 studs dropping out of the floor to support the step-box and that's not working very well. If mine had 4 like the KZ, I would eliminated that 'weak rivet' 3-step and replaced with a 4-step last year.
I'm wondering why my 2012 only has two studs instead of four. I would be interested to know if your 2014 FR has what I could consider the standard 4 studs dropping down from the floor to secure the step-box?