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08-27-2016, 10:02 PM
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Tail light/ running lights
Hello all,
I have a sunseeker 3170 , 2014 on a e450 chassis.
I had tail lights out and when I replaced bulb I believe I blew a fuse and now running lights and tail lights are not working. Brake, turn, reverse are all working.
I used pliers to get bulb out and accidentally touched the wrong thing and blew fuse( I hope that's the problem).
I have no way of determining what fuse I might have blown other then pulling every one....which will take all day.
Does anyone have a schematic or know where I can start? I couldn't find one online and am not knowledgeable.... I don't have a tester and am not nearby a hardware store...
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09-01-2016, 06:48 AM
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Did you get the Manuel for the truck like you get when you buy a car or truck? You should have the placement of the fuses with amps location and what each fuse controls. My running lights are on a 20 amp fuse in the truck panel, don't see why you wouldn't get the manual for the truck e450
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09-02-2016, 01:35 PM
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You might try to lift the cover up that over the fuses and look under the cover. My truck is like that
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09-02-2016, 09:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spock123
You might try to lift the cover up that over the fuses and look under the cover. My truck is like that
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I know on my Ford the cover only shows the # at each location, then you have to look at the truck manual to find out which controls what. They must have given you the e450 manual that tells you how everything works or like how to set the clock. It would be in there....
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09-03-2016, 07:38 PM
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Tail light/ running lights
Under the drivers side dash there is a fuse panel behind the parking brake. You may need to release the brake. Make sure couch does not move. Remove the panel and chek fuse #22. Controls tail, clearance and tag light.
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09-03-2016, 07:42 PM
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Bingo, there you go
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09-03-2016, 08:22 PM
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Fuse cover. Sorry no actual picts. Not enough room for my head, hand and camera
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09-03-2016, 08:37 PM
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Test light knows all. Carry one
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09-04-2016, 04:30 AM
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Here is a link for a PDF manual from Ford for your chassis. I looked it up and it appears to be fuse #22 in the passenger compartment panel.
http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Fo...US_03_2014.pdf
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09-04-2016, 07:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjSpeedwagon
Test light knows all. Carry one
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09-04-2016, 07:40 AM
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I wish that was true, and his problem is not the same as mine. The test light works if the fuse is bad or good only. I have the same problem with my lights, I can change that fuse before every trip, the lights work until I hit a bump in the road then it blows again, The TV has been checked by Ford nothing there. FR throw there hands up in the air and gave up. I also replaced the whole cord with a new one, check every light, and I would be damned if I can find it, I think staple, but how do you find it.... This has been been since day one. As long as the trailer doesn't move they will stay on 24/7...Don't mean to high jack the thread, but I can understand his frustration ...
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09-04-2016, 07:45 AM
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Glenn....I would run new wire from nose down thru storage compartment to the hard propane line and using tie wraps, go to the rear and back up inside to the light fixtures
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09-04-2016, 08:14 AM
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What you have said went over my head, can you say that dumb man terms please
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09-04-2016, 11:50 AM
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There are 8 running lights it could be any of them, I also do not have any hard propane line except the one under the trailer that runs from the left side tank to my barbecue. There is no wires in either of my propane lockers. I have two lights in the skirt and 6 by the roof line. I can't see how to pull new wire through, and that's if they didn't staple it to a wall or something. I guess I'll just have to use the auto resetible fuse I put in its place the only bad thing about that is you have to shut your lights off for like 3 minstrel for it to reset.
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09-04-2016, 01:31 PM
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Go to the trailer pig tail junction box, remove cover, find out what color in your plug is taillights. Back at junction box, undo that wire from trailer......then on pigtail wire join a new wire and feed it ( might have to make new small hole), to any clearance light hot side and attach. Or, for a long drawn out process, you could pull one bulb at a time, test drive, go to next light bulb, pull it, and repeat process till fuse blows.. .trying to narrow down the grounding area.
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09-04-2016, 01:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob caldwell
Go to the trailer pig tail junction box, remove cover, find out what color in your plug is taillights. Back at junction box, undo that wire from trailer......then on pigtail wire join a new wire and feed it ( might have to make new small hole), to any clearance light hot side and attach. Or, for a long drawn out process, you could pull one bulb at a time, test drive, go to next light bulb, pull it, and repeat process till fuse blows.. .trying to narrow down the grounding area.
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Or is the ground line is not actually grounded anywhere swap the two wires and maybe the sway will clear the short if only the current 12 v wire is shorted to ground.
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09-04-2016, 01:48 PM
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Well it's for sure something is moving or it's blow the fuse just sitt'n....
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09-04-2016, 01:51 PM
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If it were mine, I'd pull all marker/ taillight fixtures and bulbs and reinstall one at a time, wiggling the wires at the same time try'n to duplicate condition
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09-04-2016, 01:56 PM
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If we knew where the factory picked up ( their first splice) into loom, then cut that connection, run a temp external wire to that point, that would narrow the field down....
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09-04-2016, 08:19 PM
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Glen should pull the front skylight. All the wires are right there under the trim. I have the same trailer. At least figure out which one it is isolate front to back as a start.
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