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Old 09-11-2009, 04:15 PM   #11
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Wow, how did we get from an American built broken frame to
Jap bashing......
And while you've got me here--- My last truck,
a Chevy S10 Blazer with the big V6 was blowing smoke
at 95000 and I took good care of it.
My previous car was a Ford Taurus.
It blew head gaskets at 65000 miles exactly 1 year after
the "free extended head gasket" warranty had expired.
We traded it in on a Nissan Maxima.
Absolutely no problems with that one.
Detroit brought a LOT of their problems on themsleves.

This opinion from a guy who just retired from 37 years
as a union member and employee of GE.

If you want to get all political then please move to the
political soap box er I mean forum!

If you've got suggestions on how to fix a broken frame
this is the place.

Starting with the frames from Lippert, my under standing is that Lippert frames are made in China and are imported in, so to me that means not American made. (Broken Frames)

As far as vehicles go, I have 6 GM vehicles in my driveway, three trucks/SUV and three cars, three were bought new and three were bought used no major problems other then normal wear and tear. I drive 45,000 miles a year just back and forth to work. Just not too long ago I retired a 1995 Chevy Astro Van with 300,016 miles on it, the reason I got read of it is because the electrical system was failing, it had a 4.3 V-6 from the factory, the same trans and rear and I bought this van used and it had 45,000 miles on it. The only other vehicle I had was a Ford F-150 small block engine and it used almost as much gas as my 1994 GMC Suburban did with a 454 in it, I put 1,500 miles on it and then sold it.

I am an active member out of Local #99 Operator Engineers Union in Washington DC of 15 years.

The Political side of this Country is why we are having so many problems with poor quality imports, little or no regulations and what regulations there are they are not cought until someone is effected, and to make thing worst the RV industry here in the U.S. has little or no regulations. If there was then we would be paying a higher price for our rigs, but we want a cheaper price, so lets but saftey a side...Who needs it......This is a poor out look on life.

As far as fixing things and try to re-engineer you rig after one has paid for it, this is a Great forum to be a part of, the people here are great and always trying to help one another.....This is my opinion as an active union member.

Yes, we may be getting out of hand with this thread, I can fell tension starting to build, Just trying to clear up facts from fiction. The quality of a product is ones opinion but facts are the end result...
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:57 PM   #12
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First off KYdan, you hit things right on the head when it comes to the auto industry, they brought it on themselves.

As for the trailer tongue issue, I agree totally with Radio that it should be reported to DOT and NHTSA, pronto!

Ouside of that it sounds like this isn't an isolated case and therefore I am sensing a possible class action lawsuit???? I'm no lawyer and don't believe in suing someone because you spilt hot coffee on yourself but this is a very serious matter that could mean the loss of life and it shouldn't be up to you to have to pay for the repairs.
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Old 09-12-2009, 08:03 AM   #13
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Starting with the frames from Lippert, my under standing is that Lippert frames are made in China and are imported in, so to me that means not American made. (Broken Frames).
http://www.lippertcomponents.com/

Read their website. They say nothing about importing.
They brag about being a multi state company.
It would take more research than I am willing to do but
it sounds to me like they are a US company.
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Old 09-12-2009, 08:21 AM   #14
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http://www.lippertcomponents.com/

Read their website. They say nothing about importing.
They brag about being a multi state company.
It would take more research than I am willing to do but
it sounds to me like they are a US company.

KyDan good morning, Some of the info I have been getting did not say that Lippert was an overseas company, it's just that there frames are made overseas just like other American companies. This info came from another RV Forum....escapeesrv.com. When I first heard of this I just ask a question here on Forest River Forum to see if anyone else knew of an Imported frame. On escapeesrv.com someone else must have done the reserach. In a few years my wife and I plan on retiring and sell everthing then hit the road with an RV, so she has been getting alot of good info from this site on what to do and what to buy, so this was something that she had brought to my attenion and then I wanted to pass this info on to the members here. It odd that another member posted about his frame breaking apart right around the time I recieved this info about Lippert frames.
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Old 09-12-2009, 05:24 PM   #15
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I don't really care enough to do the research.
I'm stuck with the trailer in my driveway anyway!

OTOH, I would not want to go around telling folks Lippert frames
were imported from China unless I was sure.
Just because someone said so on another forum is not good
enough. I'm not saying the frames aren't imported but I am not
ready to go telling folks that unless I'm pretty sure.
I'm not pretty sure at this point.

To your query-- I hope this doesn't scare you away.
The broken frames were both toy haulers. Those type trailers
are subject to somewhat different stresses than normal
trailers. There have not been a lot of folks complaining here
about frame problems.

We get folks with water leaks and other problems but frames-
thankfully- have been pretty low on the radar.
I hope it stays that way!!

Good luck!
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Old 09-13-2009, 09:32 AM   #16
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I don't really care enough to do the research.
I'm stuck with the trailer in my driveway anyway!

OTOH, I would not want to go around telling folks Lippert frames
were imported from China unless I was sure.
Just because someone said so on another forum is not good
enough. I'm not saying the frames aren't imported but I am not
ready to go telling folks that unless I'm pretty sure.
I'm not pretty sure at this point.

To your query-- I hope this doesn't scare you away.
The broken frames were both toy haulers. Those type trailers
are subject to somewhat different stresses than normal
trailers. There have not been a lot of folks complaining here
about frame problems.

We get folks with water leaks and other problems but frames-
thankfully- have been pretty low on the radar.
I hope it stays that way!!

Good luck!

I am sorry if everyone has taken my info the wrong way. No where in this thread did I tell folks Quote; "that Lippert frames were made is China" I explained this in post #14, I just ask the question if any has heard of it based on the info I received, to determine facts form fiction. So please give me more credit then that. I am not here to pass on incorrect info.
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