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06-08-2013, 06:16 AM
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Welding
Should any welding be done on TT?
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06-08-2013, 07:23 AM
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It depends on what's wrong or what you're trying to accomplish, I guess...
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06-08-2013, 07:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HarrynSally
Should any welding be done on TT?
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Over the units (Lifetime) Yes! Youroo!!
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06-08-2013, 10:57 PM
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Officially, no. If it's still under warranty, don't even think about it. An exception might be a battery tray or something like that.
That said, I have a significant steel cage welded to the underside of my Surveyor as part of my floor-replacement project. But it's 10-years old. It's either fix it, or scrap it. I'm fixing it, since no dealer would even quote the job.
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06-10-2013, 10:40 AM
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I suppose that would depend on your abilities. Sure your warranty could be in jeopardy, but I have had to argue that, as a welder with 20 years of certified welding experience, I am more qualified than any of the factory workers and probably most of their engineering staff. Luckily it worked.
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06-10-2013, 10:58 AM
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The factory workers don't weld on them either.
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06-10-2013, 11:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BarryD0706
The factory workers don't weld on them either.
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Even the frame mfg doesn't weld very much or very good from what I've seen
Sure wouldn't pass inspection by a certified weld inspector.
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06-10-2013, 11:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesmeece
I suppose that would depend on your abilities. Sure your warranty could be in jeopardy, but I have had to argue that, as a welder with 20 years of certified welding experience, I am more qualified than any of the factory workers and probably most of their engineering staff. Luckily it worked.
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My point was:
a. If it's out of warranty, so what you have to do. As an experienced welder, you (or my friend that did my welding job) will certainly do a good job.
b. If it's still in warranty, welding on the frame can be pointed to as a modification. If you later try to make a claim, and they can in some way point to the welding job as a possible cause for the failure (whatever that failure was), then they could deny the claim, since they specifically tell you in the owner's manual not to do that. At that point, it's on you to prove that the weld job did not cause the failure.
Do what you need to do. But if it's in warranty, just be aware that the manufacturer has covered themselves, and will always do everything they can to deny a claim.
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06-10-2013, 11:37 AM
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Agreed. I think that some fair amount of consideration should be done as far as safety regardless of warranty status. I have seen sever examples of weld failures as well as metal fatigue on this forum and others. Some of these repairs or mods could endanger self, family, or other motorists. Nobody wants that.
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06-11-2013, 09:58 PM
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To op.
As someone who works for a large auto Dealer I will say yes and no.
There will be a some areas that are acceptable and others that are not-that is for the manuf. To decide, to limit your liability. We have areas we are allowed to weld and or section on vehicle frames-if we need to weld or section an area that is not allowed than frame replacement is required.
Of course you as the end user can do what ever you want, but as a tech we are limmited by manuf. Specs and liability.
-that said on everything except the axle tube and spring area, it appears to me that camper frames are mild steel-which can be welded easily and correctly, and of course a prof. Looking weld in an acceptible area that is cleaned up and coated properly, will probably never even raise a red flag.
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