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06-02-2016, 11:35 AM
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Blog: RVroadtripper.com
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I have the 3100 and it runs my A/C just fine. I usually change the Refrigerator and Hot Water to gas and turn off the hot water elec switch. We watch the LED tv and use as many of our LED lights as we want. The items that cannot run at same time are AC plus hairdryer or elec coffee pot. We usually just kill the AC a few minutes then turn it back on when the coffee and hair are done.
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06-11-2016, 09:54 PM
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I will update upon my first rv use of the new champion get I bought. I got the dual fuel (gas and propane). Once I figure out the hose setup for propane I am supposed to be able to run it off the quick connect on the trailer. I bought the 100623 model with is a 3100 rated 3400 surge on gas. Little lower on propane
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06-11-2016, 11:09 PM
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In the same boat here, probably going to buy the newer champion rated at 3400 with the remote start and dual fuel setup. Really want the 2 red ones but would rather spend the extra 1k elsewhere. I usually bring my noise maker 6k briggs where we dry camp but had a neighbor complain a few weeks ago at about midnight it was really loud....he literally put his tent right next to the thing. I told him to get off is air mattress and sleep on the happy jack in my garage with the ac cranking and forget about it! Whatever I was tired of pushing that monster up the ramp anyways
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06-12-2016, 02:25 PM
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I was not able to get remote start and dual fuel. It was either remote start or dual fuel, but not both
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06-12-2016, 08:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clutchd
I will update upon my first rv use of the new champion get I bought. I got the dual fuel (gas and propane). Once I figure out the hose setup for propane I am supposed to be able to run it off the quick connect on the trailer. I bought the 100623 model with is a 3100 rated 3400 surge on gas. Little lower on propane
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I do not believe you will be able to safely run your dual fuel Champion from your RV quick connect. The Champion regulator is designed to kill the propane feed should the generator stall or quit. That regulator expects a high pressure feed but your RVs quick connect provides a low pressure feed that comes from the line that is after your RVs regulator. Basically, two regulators in series will yield too low a pressure to safely run the Champion. In the barbeque on the quick connect scenario we just eliminate the bbq regulator. You should not eliminate the Champion regulator as it is part of the safety design required to provide dual fuel.
Your best choices are to carry a separate tank for the inverter or run your RV off a single tank and disconnect/dedicate tank 2 to the inverter.
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Maxxis 235/80/16E; AirBags w/AirLift1; mor/Ryde Rubber Pinbox; Andersen UltimateII Alum. 5erhitch on Reese Flipball w/Curt 4" offset; LCI Ground Control3; King Dishtailgater; Traveling with 10' Portabote;
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06-12-2016, 08:37 PM
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The regulator on the champion setup is before the diaphragm so this isn't a problem if you are concerned. Just unscrew the regulator from the safety shutoff and screw in your line.
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06-12-2016, 08:44 PM
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Here's the regulator/ line setup
Unless I'm thinking wrong the regulator is right after the bottle connection. Then comes the safety which operates on vacuum from the engine to open the valve to allow propane to make it to the engine.
Didn't really think about this till you said something. I separated the regulator from the safety and it is 1/8 pipe. May use some quick connect so I can switch between trailer and a bottle
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06-12-2016, 08:56 PM
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Blog: RVroadtripper.com
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clutchd
Here's the regulator/ line setup
Unless I'm thinking wrong the regulator is right after the bottle connection. Then comes the safety which operates on vacuum from the engine to open the valve to allow propane to make it to the engine.
Didn't really think about this till you said something. I separated the regulator from the safety and it is 1/8 pipe. May use some quick connect so I can switch between trailer and a bottle
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That should work. I see now that the Champion can operate on low pressure (I was wrong)
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06-12-2016, 09:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hbillsmith
That should work. I see now that the Champion can operate on low pressure (I was wrong)
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It's OK. I am glad you said something. I didn't think about the safety
Thanks
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06-12-2016, 09:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clutchd
I was not able to get remote start and dual fuel. It was either remote start or dual fuel, but not both
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Ah maybe I was reading the description wrong. I didn't really plan on running off propane just liked the idea of it in case I ran out of gas
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06-14-2016, 09:03 AM
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I was able to answer my own question. I bought the Champion 3100, paid $784 on sale at Home Depot.
Last night I finally got a chance to try it out. Hooked it up to my camper and was able to run the AC and the TV, didn't try anything else, cause well, that's all I need. lol It was a cool day here so the AC didn't have to work too hard, but I turned it down to 62 and let it run a few cycles. Generator seemed to power it well with no overload or bogging down. Looks like I made a good purchase, thanks for all the feedback!!
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06-14-2016, 11:01 AM
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Good. I can bet if you turned on your microwave and/or your electric water heater you would overload the 30a and pop the breaker. So just balance out what you need... enjoy.
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06-24-2016, 04:07 PM
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I have the trailer home and loading up for a dual sport ride this weekend. Ran the generator off propane for 2 hours for a good test. Went right off the low pressure quick connect. Turned the ac on and the hen went off economy for a few seconds then right back to economy. Ran great for an hour. So I decided to test the generator. Turn the batter charger on and a little surge of the gen. Then I turn the fridge on and it came off economy and stayed there. As long as I don't run the microwave or the water heater on electric it Will run great. To me it is dumb to use alot propane to run the gen to run the fridge on electric and same with the water heater. But this was just to test the gen. It will mainly be used for ac this weekend as I'll be in the middle of a field with no shade
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06-25-2016, 03:52 PM
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Blog: RVroadtripper.com
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Champion Dual Fuel to RV Onboard Propane
Click here CHAMPION 3400 DUAL to RV.pdf
Clutch, thanks for providing the pictures and testing. I took you info and built the attached PDF so anyone looking to do the same can just download and keep for reference. If you have part numbers or sources for the quick connects you used, I'm glad to modify and repost the PDF with that info.
Bill
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06-27-2016, 07:38 AM
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PDF isn't working for me. The quick connects were from cammco off of Amazon. The brass fittings were from Parker. We do alot of business with them at work so I just went there. Worked great this weekend. Ran it 3 hours Friday night with a/c and a few on Sunday. 95 degrees and a/c did great. Was able to start the a/c on economy and it continued on economy
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