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08-30-2015, 10:00 PM
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Will this work?
Out side of our trailer we have a few electrical items that we run such a small beer fridge, rotissier, rope lights, and a few other items. We don't run all these items at once.
Our trailer is 50amp the pedestal is 30amp.
I have purchased a manufactured dogbone 30A male to 50A female.
I want to splice a 6 outlet power/surge bar into the dogbone.
I want to keep all the power outside for those items we use outside of the trailer. I dont want the power coming from the pedestal, through the power cord, into the trailer, then back out through the wall sockets.
My thought is by keeping the power outside with the power/surge bar if anything was to happen, the breaker on the pedestal will trip, thus eliminating any possible damage within the trailer. I realize this is minimal but, the possibilty DOES exist, where as by keeping the power outside there is NO possibility of damage to the trailer.
Have a look at the schematics, although a little crude, hopefully you can decipher my add on and see if will this configuration work?
John
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08-30-2015, 10:16 PM
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Your 50 amp RV will operate everything up to the 30 amps supplying it. Your power consumption will be limited to 30 amps from the pedestal regardless how you try to split it off.
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08-30-2015, 10:21 PM
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I would just plug my outdoor stuff directly into the 15a outlet on the pedestal using an outdoor extension cord. In fact, I do this all the time so that we can run a small space heater in the RV while using the water heater on electric, the coffee pot and the microwave. I run the cord in through a window and have rigged it with insulation so we don't have a heat loss.
I haven't been doing it for a real long time though...so maybe some pedestals don't have a 15a outlet?
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08-30-2015, 10:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elind
Your 50 amp RV will operate everything up to the 30 amps supplying it. Your power consumption will be limited to 30 amps from the pedestal regardless how you try to split it off.
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I realize consumption will be limited to 30amps overall and the trailer can handle this, maybe I'm just being paranoid but I would still like to keep that power outside.
Oh... I did forget to mention that the length of extension cords needed will decrease considerably with the "Y" connector I want to make.
The pedestal has one 30amp outlet only hence the "Y" connector
John
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08-31-2015, 08:58 AM
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I think you are going backwards with a set up like this. . The chance of ever damaging your electrical n your trailer is next almost non existent. You have greater chance of causing damage to components and or casting a fire with the set up you are suggesting, then you ever would using it properly.
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08-31-2015, 09:01 AM
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Not to mention your components are now under 30 amp protection instead of 15 amp. This is highly illegal from an electrical code perspective and if any secondary damage occurs to site, surrounding area, or other people's property, you are liable. Did I mention your risk of starting a fire?
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08-31-2015, 09:15 AM
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I dont think I am understanding this?! You have a 50 amp trailer and you want to use a 30 amp plug coming out of the campground pedestal and then wire in extra outlets????
This does not make sense to me. Why not just use the 50 amp service get a PI (progressive industries) unit and be done with it. You can plug whatever you want in and the PI will manage it and safeguard it.
I understand people like to tinker and brainstorm but this particular case seems like a bad idea and begs the question, why? This is just my opinion and I mean no disrespect.
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08-31-2015, 06:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CJM
I think you are going backwards with a set up like this. . The chance of ever damaging your electrical n your trailer is next almost non existent. You have greater chance of causing damage to components and or casting a fire with the set up you are suggesting, then you ever would using it properly.
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This is the what I was looking for Thanks CJ
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08-31-2015, 06:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuicideSaints
I dont think I am understanding this?! You have a 50 amp trailer and you want to use a 30 amp plug coming out of the campground pedestal and then wire in extra outlets????
This does not make sense to me. Why not just use the 50 amp service get a PI (progressive industries) unit and be done with it. You can plug whatever you want in and the PI will manage it and safeguard it.
I understand people like to tinker and brainstorm but this particular case seems like a bad idea and begs the question, why? This is just my opinion and I mean no disrespect.
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I have been looking at the -PT30C. This one has been getting good reviews.
Thanks again SS
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08-31-2015, 07:02 PM
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Here is a good deal on 50ft 12ga extension cord.
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08-31-2015, 07:16 PM
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Btw spend the extra money to get a 50 amp progressive ems for your 30 amp trailer that way when you upgrade to a new camper with 50amp service you can take it with you.
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08-31-2015, 08:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TURBS
Btw spend the extra money to get a 50 amp progressive ems for your 30 amp trailer that way when you upgrade to a new camper with 50amp service you can take it with you.
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Its is a 50amp trailer, pedesatal is 30amp, but thanks
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08-31-2015, 08:50 PM
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I would agree with Turbs and buy the PT-50C and then use the dog bone to go down to 30 amps. Is this a permanent site with no chance of ever going somewhere that has 50 amp outlets?
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08-31-2015, 09:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob213
I would agree with Turbs and buy the PT-50C and then use the dog bone to go down to 30 amps. Is this a permanent site with no chance of ever going somewhere that has 50 amp outlets?
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Yes we are at a permanent site an the chances of us ever getting/wanting a 50A are slim to nill but then again, famous last words
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08-31-2015, 10:25 PM
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Plug your extra "stuff" into the "regular" (ie, 15 amp) outlet on the pedestal, in addition to having your TT plugged into the 30 amp outlet. You have more juice available, plus you're not running it through the camper's system.
Don't reinvent the wheel.
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09-01-2015, 03:55 PM
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Found this today, not sure where I got it.
50 amp plug with 2 30 amp receptacles.
Opposite of what your wanting to do.
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09-01-2015, 06:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taranwanderer
Plug your extra "stuff" into the "regular" (ie, 15 amp) outlet on the pedestal, in addition to having your TT plugged into the 30 amp outlet. You have more juice available, plus you're not running it through the camper's system.
Don't reinvent the wheel.
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Pedestal is one 30amp only
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