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Old 12-11-2015, 10:27 AM   #181
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Man, they do offer a lot of options!

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They sure do! The amazing thing is if you completely load out a Ventana (EVERY option on the order sheet!) the MSRP is almost identical to a much less nicely appointed Berkshire XLT!

Yep, Forest River take note!
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Old 12-11-2015, 10:31 AM   #182
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Move Berkshire price point up to a Charleston msrp. Can't wait to see 2017 Charleston , bound to push 400k. Hope they don't mess with tail end an make it another tiffin or another newmar.
From what we were told when we toured the Berkshire Factory (where they also make the Charleston) The plan is to make the Berkshire XLT a direct competitor to the Newmar Ventana and the Charleston a direct competitor to the Newmar Dutch Star,
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Old 12-11-2015, 11:43 AM   #183
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Rich, my fav thing about Newmar is that if you don't like all the things about the floor plan you can change things up a bit. You can select different furniture, add extras like different countertops, flooring, even the outside paint color. You have to keep the model year design but you can choose any color that Newmar has EVER used in past models.

You can truly have a one off coach if you so desire.


Hey FR take a listen.

Kevin, it would surely be nice to have the customization potential on our coaches as well. It may be a logistical thing for them at this point, but maybe with increased sales of Forest River Diesel Division products, a factory size increase could help to accomplish this.

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Rich,

I agree - it will probably be a straight dump to the black tank amidships (a Macerator toilet has a retail of @ $1.3K )

Also agree on the macerator system - we are looking at the Thetford, Sani-Con Turbo [http://thetford.tmsandbox.com/product/sani-con-turbo/]

Bob, I am looking at those to. Just want some other guinea pig (I mean volunteer) to do the install first.


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Old 12-11-2015, 12:01 PM   #184
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Rich, my fav thing about Newmar is that if you don't like all the things about the floor plan you can change things up a bit. You can select different furniture, add extras like different countertops, flooring, even the outside paint color. You have to keep the model year design but you can choose any color that Newmar has EVER used in past models.

You can truly have a one off coach if you so desire.


Hey FR take a listen.

Kevin, it would surely be nice to have the customization potential on our coaches as well. It may be a logistical thing for them at this point, but maybe with increased sales of Forest River Diesel Division products, a factory size increase could help to accomplish this.

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Bob, I am looking at those to. Just want some other guinea pig (I mean volunteer) to do the install first.
I agree

Unfortunately, I just got some bad news in my research on the Macerator:

Bob,
We would not suggest that you use any 2 ply toilet paper other than a toilet paper specifically made for RV toilets specifically because of the fiber content that regular toilet paper contains. Also, the Pump or any of our toilets would not be able to handle any Flushable Wipes.

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Thetford Corp/Norcold Inc


This really sucks - we have used 2-Ply (Charmin) in our RV for years with zero problems (we DO use LOTS of water though)
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Bob, I don't remember product names, but we have found some nice, soft, sturdy 2 ply rv tp's over the years. Nothing worse than when the paper falls apart when in action.....

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Old 12-11-2015, 01:23 PM   #186
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I agree

Unfortunately, I just got some bad news in my research on the Macerator:

Bob,
We would not suggest that you use any 2 ply toilet paper other than a toilet paper specifically made for RV toilets specifically because of the fiber content that regular toilet paper contains. Also, the Pump or any of our toilets would not be able to handle any Flushable Wipes.

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This really sucks - we have used 2-Ply (Charmin) in our RV for years with zero problems (we DO use LOTS of water though)

I would not worry about it Bob. As I said before we use a two ply Angel soft tissue and it does go through our Thetford Macerating toilet with no problems. We have used it for 3.5 years now two year full time.
I would imagine the macerator you are wanting to install is a heavier duty unit than on the toilet.
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Old 12-11-2015, 02:20 PM   #187
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We looked at Newmar last year at the RV show in Tampa and the "change things up" option was much more limited on the "entry level" coaches. Just not as many choices on the less expensive models.
Some of the finishes in the Newmar models were kind of strange. Like a backsplash of this weird wavy material, and no stove cover in the "less expensive" models.
And they advertised "test drives with a free NEWMAR jacket" then when we got there we were told "oh no, you have to go to a dealership to take a test drive and then ONLY if you are a serious buyer". It was kind of insulting.
Tiffin has gotten better about letting you pick and choose options on their coaches, but again, options are limited on less expensive coaches.
And after going through ALL of the RVs we wanted to see at the Tampa Show (we were there for 4 days) it seemed like of all the RVs we looked at, the Forest River models seemed more homey and warm. Even the 1.2 million dollar Newell Coach seemed kind of cold on the inside. (not that we were even looking at that one, but hey it was there, might as well see what it looks like on the inside).
In the end, we are really happy that we decided to go with a Forest River product!
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I agree

Unfortunately, I just got some bad news in my research on the Macerator:

Bob,
We would not suggest that you use any 2 ply toilet paper other than a toilet paper specifically made for RV toilets specifically because of the fiber content that regular toilet paper contains. Also, the Pump or any of our toilets would not be able to handle any Flushable Wipes.

Thank You,
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Thetford Corp/Norcold Inc


This really sucks - we have used 2-Ply (Charmin) in our RV for years with zero problems (we DO use LOTS of water though)

So help me out here. If I am in a full hook up site what advantage is a macerator system ?? As most of you know I rode the short bus to school. So I need a little explanation !! I am in no way being critical just asking ?? Thanks

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Old 12-11-2015, 03:44 PM   #189
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I would not worry about it Bob. As I said before we use a two ply Angel soft tissue and it does go through our Thetford Macerating toilet with no problems. We have used it for 3.5 years now two year full time.
I would imagine the macerator you are wanting to install is a heavier duty unit than on the toilet.
Thanks Phil - that is good to hear. I figured it was just Thetford doing a CYA

As for RV toilet paper...like the saying goes:

Last night I got in touch with my inner self

And that's the LAST time I am buying 1-Ply RV Toilet paper!

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So help me out here. If I am in a full hook up site what advantage is a macerator system ?? As most of you know I rode the short bus to school. So I need a little explanation !! I am in no way being critical just asking ?? Thanks

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Russell, here's the reason that I want one. Solid waste (poo and tp) get liquified so you can pump out through a 1" hose as opposed to the usual 3" stinky slinky. Storage is easier. And the advantage that I really want is the ability to dump at home. With a 50' extension hose, I can pump the poop to my inside toilet. This allows me to not have to empty my tanks before we leave for home on our last day of the trip and then we can still use the facilities on our way home.

Macerator toilet is usually used in a RB configuration because of the length of plumbing from toilet to the black tank. Solids won't get stuck in the pipes enroute to the holding tank.

That's all I've got, buddy. If I need corrected, please feel free to chime in, anyone.

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