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Old 02-07-2019, 11:11 PM   #1
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Brake replacement intervals.

We have a state inspection in PA. Through a friend of a friend in the business I was referred to a shop that does over 25,000# inspections.

The guy could not have been nicer. Not only that but he was a motorhome owner himself and had a genuine interest in my coach. We talked maintenance and specs and all that while he was doing the inspection which was more than fair and totally non invasive.

When he was done I asked him whether I could watch, learn and ask questions when I needed brakes and brought it in to him. (I was planning on doing it myself but this seemed like too good an opportunity to pass up to gain extra knowledge....)

He said:

"I hate to tell you this, but you are never going to put brakes on this. The brakes that are on here are supposed to last 100 to 200K miles on semis..... The way you drive you will never wear them out...."

Interesting. I hope he's right. I'm still going to go in there at some point just because, but it's encouraging.
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Old 02-08-2019, 05:40 AM   #2
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Its funny how in PA they require a very good safety inspection, NJ is a joke any more all they do is emissions.


Good info on the breaks- I think most of the chassis parts will outlast the rest of the rv. I think most will fail from lack of use.
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:59 AM   #3
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Its funny how in PA they require a very good safety inspection, NJ is a joke any more all they do is emissions.

Good info on the breaks- I think most of the chassis parts will outlast the rest of the rv. I think most will fail from lack of use.
Yeah, the inspection inconsistencies have me scratching my head too.

Agreed, a lot of these buses wear from sitting. Especially the close to the ground parts get corroded and all that. Running them is good.

Friend is shopping for a used one... Keeps coming up with 10-12 year old coaches with 12,000 miles on them. Then he's surprised when I go: "You better get a REALLY good inspection on that chassis." I'll take 60K with a folder full of maintenance evidence any day.

I'm at 24K in just over 2 years, with no signs of slowing down.
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The wide variation in state safety inspections (if they have a program at all) is not the biggest head scratcher.

When it's time to have the brakes replaced you never really know if the person doing so is a well trained tech or just someone that never graduated from high school and just replaces brake parts by trial and error until he gets it right.

One of the most important safety devices on your vehicle but with no uniform standards across the country on who, and how, they get serviced.

Emission techs need to be certified but if your emission system isn't serviced properly the air just stinks. When brake systems fail due to improper service people can die.

Ditto for steering system repair and alignment.
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NJ doesn't do emissions tests on RV's or vehicles over a certain weight.
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my Palazzo, on the Freightliner XCS chassis, has over 90,000 miles and no brake issues whatsoever, except for the dreaded 'squealing' when first braking in the morning after a night of humidity or dew(moisture in the air)...

apparently the S cam or cam rollers can be aggravated by this condition! Yikes!

actually, Freightliner in Gaffney suggested I replace them when I mentioned this way back at 20,000miles - but I deferred and suggested that I would just deal with an occasional squeal, versus a $200 bill.

The exhaust brake function is a terrific part of the system, and probably a big reason why these brakes last for so long.
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my Palazzo, on the Freightliner XCS chassis, has over 90,000 miles and no brake issues whatsoever, except for the dreaded 'squealing' when first braking in the morning after a night of humidity or dew(moisture in the air)...

apparently the S cam or cam rollers can be aggravated by this condition! Yikes!

actually, Freightliner in Gaffney suggested I replace them when I mentioned this way back at 20,000miles - but I deferred and suggested that I would just deal with an occasional squeal, versus a $200 bill.

The exhaust brake function is a terrific part of the system, and probably a big reason why these brakes last for so long.

The squeal is more likely the brake shoes/pads adsorbing moisture. My 2011 Silverado did the same thing under the same conditions. I haven't had the 2018 long enough to know if it does the same.
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When it's time to have the brakes replaced you never really know if the person doing so is a well trained tech or just someone that never graduated from high school and just replaces brake parts by trial and error until he gets it right.
Well if I do them myself, I will know that it's a College educated person that does research and trial by error until, indeed, I get it right.

If someone else touches my stuff I get to know them well enough first. Plenty of small operations where you can talk to the people doing the work.

My inspection was a case in point. Three bays, two sons and a cousin doing the work, octogenarian Dad in the office and don't mess with him. Nice people, very knowledgeable. I would trust them with my coach and with my wallet.
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The squeal is more likely the brake shoes/pads adsorbing moisture.
Yup. A little squealing never hurt anyone. Nothing worth getting your panties in a bunch over...... Certainly not worth spending money on, as there's no way to fix it.
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Well if I do them myself, I will know that it's a College educated person that does research and trial by error until, indeed, I get it right.

If someone else touches my stuff I get to know them well enough first. Plenty of small operations where you can talk to the people doing the work.

My inspection was a case in point. Three bays, two sons and a cousin doing the work, octogenarian Dad in the office and don't mess with him. Nice people, very knowledgeable. I would trust them with my coach and with my wallet.

Money and your coach are replaceable- your life is not!
Last summer a friend of my sons has a wheel lock up at 70mph causing one hell of a ride, mechanic did not tighten either front caliper, one locked the front wheel (wedged between rim and rotor)- upon inspection they found the other side loose.
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