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Old 09-25-2019, 03:46 PM   #1
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LED lights don't get HOT???

So we got a urge to improve lighting in our 2013. Replaced all the overhead lights with Cool White 560 lumen fixtures. Bathroom fixture has always bothered me that it did not match the others. Took the screws out of it and could not get it off the ceiling. Finally used a flathead screwdriver and slowly got it to release. Pics are what I found. The aluminum portion of the light had burnt into the ceiling vinyl. If you have this light, recommend to check it. Will it get hot enough to cause a fire? I don't know but based on burn marks on the vinyl I don't think it is worth the risk.
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Old 09-25-2019, 03:54 PM   #2
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I have seen this affect with LED's rated at 12V. I bought another batch that were rated 12-24v and they never got hot at all. But mine are the 193 plugin stye, not the type you have.
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Old 09-25-2019, 03:58 PM   #3
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this comes up from time to time with LED lights. my father in law had Camping World "upgrade" his trailer with all LED lights inside. Melted every single light cover. they installed LED's that were 12v ONLY and not 10.5v to 15+ volts. they had to be changed out again. check and make sure that your LED's can handle over 12 volts. when i had my popup i put led's in it and made sure that they could handle 14+ volts.
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I have seen this affect with LED's rated at 12V. I bought another batch that were rated 12-24v and they never got hot at all. But mine are the 193 plugin stye, not the type you have.

There WERE two of this style in the upper coach. The one in the bathroom and one is the hangup closet. The one in the closet was not as bad, but then we seldom turn it on and was never on long enough to get hot. My new lights are 10 -24 volt using 48pcs SMD 2835 LED. I will be taking one back down after a few month of use to be sure these lights don't have any issues.
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A lot of LED lights will also have a consumed wattage rating on them along with the lumen output.

ANY electrical device will generate heat and it will be directly proportional to it's current draw.

Look for lowest current draw and highest lumen output. The conversion bulbs often have twice as many LED's as necessary as they're built to replace lamps that project light in all directions.
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Old 09-25-2019, 05:15 PM   #6
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I just replaced my outdoor garage lights with LEDs that are 500 lumens, and they are "60 watt equivalent." These 60 watt equivalent LEDs actually use 5.5 watts at 120 VAC. The equivalent DC current for 5.5 watts would be about 0.5 amps. (This is about what the door heater in your Dometic fridge draws, if you have one.) Incandescent tail light bulbs, which were used in many RV overhead lights, run about 6.7 watts. So your new LED's do seem to be overpowered. It must have been bright inside!

I had a battery-powered LED bar over my sink that I needed to replace. In looking at Menards, Home Depot, etc., it appeared that most battery powered LED fixtures that you can buy to put in a storage area or over the sink run 100-200 lumens, so maybe a watt or two.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:54 PM   #7
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Try RV LED Lites (rvledlites.com) for replacement lights for Berkshire
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The higher the light output, the hotter a LED bulb will generally run. Also a lot of them will have footnotes on the box/ordering page "do not use in enclosed fixtures".

You probably need to put some spacers over the screws to give a slight air gap between the body of the light fixture and the ceiling for a little air flow. That will probably fix it. I understand you are replacing the fixture, so consider doing this for the replacement.
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The higher the light output, the hotter a LED bulb will generally run. Also a lot of them will have footnotes on the box/ordering page "do not use in enclosed fixtures".

You probably need to put some spacers over the screws to give a slight air gap between the body of the light fixture and the ceiling for a little air flow. That will probably fix it. I understand you are replacing the fixture, so consider doing this for the replacement.

Spacers are a good idea. Will check into it when I take down a unit in the next few weeks to see how it is doing.
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