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Old 10-01-2015, 12:17 PM   #1
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Does anyone have and use a trickle charger that will maintain a charge (like a battery tender) on both 6 & 12 volts batteries at the same time (if one exists) ?

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Old 12-03-2015, 08:56 PM   #2
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Ken,

Did you have any luck finding a dual charger? And do you take your batteries out for the winter?

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Could you join your batts to make 12v?


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I happened to find a battery tender I had used on my Harley before I sold it.

So I leave the coach plugged in to keep the 6v house batteries charged and throw the master switch for the 12v coach batteries to the off position. I then leave the battery tender on the chassis batteries.

Seems to be working well.

BTW: I do not take them out for the winter. I like to be ready to go out in it and pretend when I have had too much of winter, and whenever those rare "warmer" days appear during the winter.
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Does anyone have and use a trickle charger that will maintain a charge (like a battery tender) on both 6 & 12 volts batteries at the same time (if one exists) ?

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Your electrical system is all 12 volts.
Just put a charger on.


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Yea.... I was going to do that, but then I figured I was leaving it plugged in all winter anyway, and the inverter does a good job of keeping the house batteries charged, so I just put the battery tender I found on the chassis batteries.

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My problem is that I park in a yard without the ability to plug in. Since it gets below freezing here in PA and I don't get back to the unit until it warms up in spring, I have to take them out and charge them in the garage at home. At least that's what I did with my old unit. I always used an old trickle charger but with the new rig, I want to buy something that does all charging phases but doesn't break the bank. Kenny, your comment about hooking them up together, both the 12 volt and 6 volt sets, to one charger, had me thinking. It would be a lot simpler than always switching back and forth between the two sets, chassis and house.
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Yea.... I was going to do that, but then I figured I was leaving it plugged in all winter anyway, and the inverter does a good job of keeping the house batteries charged, so I just put the battery tender I found on the chassis batteries.

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Ken

if you don't have a good battery tender that senses when a battery is charged and shuts off and only charges when the battery voltage drops you can cause more trouble then not using one all together . the older tenders that use a constant charge can and will ruin batteries over time as they sulfate the battery by the constant charge
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Ken, I believe the Magnum charger will charge the chassis battery after the house batteries are full. While it's charging the Chassis batteries, the AUX switch will glow or flash.
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My problem is that I park in a yard without the ability to plug in. Since it gets below freezing here in PA and I don't get back to the unit until it warms up in spring, I have to take them out and charge them in the garage at home. At least that's what I did with my old unit. I always used an old trickle charger but with the new rig, I want to buy something that does all charging phases but doesn't break the bank. Kenny, your comment about hooking them up together, both the 12 volt and 6 volt sets, to one charger, had me thinking. It would be a lot simpler than always switching back and forth between the two sets, chassis and house.
I don't switch. The house batteries are charged via the shore power plug and the chassis batteries are maintained with the battery tender.

I do disconnect the battery tender for the chassis batteries though on the weekends when home from work because I go in and out of the coach all weekend and the front step works off the chassis batteries, which are shut off at the master switch when on the battery tender.
Forcing myself to do this on weekends makes certain that nothing else is going wrong in the battery compartments and the water levels are good in the chassis batteries. Besides, I like to "fiddle" with it.

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Uuuuuhhhhhhh......if you have electrical power for the trickle charger why not just plug the trailer in...even if it is 20 110v power it will keep the batteries charged.....
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Ken, I believe the Magnum charger will charge the chassis battery after the house batteries are full. While it's charging the Chassis batteries, the AUX switch will glow or flash.
I thought so too. But I have asked folks at Freightliner and FR. Half say yes, and half say no. It may be, but from my experience, I'm not too sure.

I did not put any extra chargers on it last winter and ended up replacing both chassis batteries (1 year old). When I got the new batteries, it didn't take more than a few weeks of sitting to start seeing the low battery warnings and sluggish start ups.

After putting the battery tender on the chassis batteries, no warnings and very crisp start ups.

Just trying to play it safe.

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Uuuuuhhhhhhh......if you have electrical power for the trickle charger why not just plug the trailer in...even if it is 20 110v power it will keep the batteries charged.....

See message above on what I do.


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When I got the new batteries, it didn't take more than a few weeks of sitting to start seeing the low battery warnings and sluggish start ups.
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Were you leaving your Chassis battery master switch on so that they could charge?

Just wondering as my 2014 seems to keep all batteries charged while plugged in.
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Were you leaving your Chassis battery master switch on so that they could charge?

Just wondering as my 2014 seems to keep all batteries charged while plugged in.
Yes. Last winter I left both master switches on and the shore power plugged in.

Maybe I'm just being over-cautious. Could be that everything that happened was a "Co-Inky-Dink"

Between getting different answers on shore power charging from different folks at both Freightliner and FR, and the low power/sluggish starts while not using the battery tender, I just wanted to play it safe. I was lucky and got the 2-12v batteries replaced under warranty. Next time would be on my dime.

But I will say, that while my original batteries were in there, and I was hooked up to shore power, I tested the chassis batteries with a load tester and after a short while heard the inverter kick on. That tends to make me think shore power will charge the chassis batteries. I sure would like to see the schematics for the wiring (if they even exist).

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Temporary stick a volt meter on the ones you want to know about, after there are depleted a little, and see if voltage rises when converter kicks on..
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Yes. Last winter I left both master switches on and the shore power plugged in.

Maybe I'm just being over-cautious. Could be that everything that happened was a "Co-Inky-Dink"

Between getting different answers on shore power charging from different folks at both Freightliner and FR, and the low power/sluggish starts while not using the battery tender, I just wanted to play it safe. I was lucky and got the 2-12v batteries replaced under warranty. Next time would be on my dime.

But I will say, that while my original batteries were in there, and I was hooked up to shore power, I tested the chassis batteries with a load tester and after a short while heard the inverter kick on. That tends to make me think shore power will charge the chassis batteries. I sure would like to see the schematics for the wiring (if they even exist).

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Thanks guys for all the replies.

I'm grateful for the schematic too (if it's the same). I'm going to file this for future reference.

For now, I'm not looking to change anything. I found what works on mine and I'm going to stick with it. Maybe in the summer I will play around with it and do more testing, but for now I am good.

Retirement is about a month and a half away and I'm hoping to have more time. I've retired once before though, and found that wasn't really the case

I'm just happy everything is working fine on it now and looking forward to our next trip whether it be in January or April.

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Ken, I have four 6 volt battery tenders for the house batteries and two 12 volt tenders for the coach batteries. Seems like a p.i.t.a, but it works well and I have never had an issue.

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Ken, I have four 6 volt battery tenders for the house batteries and two 12 volt tenders for the coach batteries. Seems like a p.i.t.a, but it works well and I have never had an issue.

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I just put the 12v tender across both chassis batteries.
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