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Old 02-04-2012, 08:52 PM   #1
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OT - Friend looking at Discovery 40G

I know we all own the Berk and I'm assuming all of us are very happy with it. I know I am. I have a good friend looking at a 2011 (new) Discovery. Let me know your opinions and I'll pass them along.

Details on 2011*FLEETWOOD*DISCOVERY*40G at Holiday World of Houston
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Old 02-04-2012, 09:39 PM   #2
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Honest opinion is that the Fleetwood is a little bit more of a higher end than the Berkshire and the price listed is reflective of that. A leftover Berkshire 390bh should be about $30,000 less than the Fleetwood. Other than the price the major difference will be the engine. Fleetwood uses the Navistar engine which does not use the DEF system but rather exhaust regeneration. Some feel that their system shortens the engine life more than Cummins which uses the DEF. I would think that your friend needs to see if the extra features are worth the extra dollars.
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Old 02-04-2012, 10:11 PM   #3
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He really likes the pass thru bathroom - however I did point out with the bunk slide closed it appears it might be impossible to get to the bunks? With the Berk the kids can easily access the bunks while traveling down the road.

The Discovery does have 380HP compared to ours at 340 or 360 in addition to not using DEF.

I told him with the extra HP he will get me on the hills but I'll give him a big air horn honk as I pass him at the gas station. :-)
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:06 AM   #4
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In 2011 we compared a leftover 2010 Berkshire, a

2010 Discovery, and a 2010 Phaeton, all loaded. The Birkshire was $159,000, the Discovery $169,000.00, and the Phaeton around $178,000.00. All great coaches but we selected the Birkshire. Came down to the floorplan and perceived value.
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:25 PM   #5
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We have just trader a Fleetwood Discovery in on a 2012 390BH-60. So far, we love our Berkshire.

Having spent last weekend at the local RV show, I can honestly say that the only two units that even came close (at any price) were the Tiffan and the Discovery. That being said, dollar for dollar, I still think the Berkshire comes up to. Al three of these coaches are top notch and are very well fitted to families. Although the finish is better in both the Tiffan and the Discovery, you take a big hit to the wallet for these extra frills.

We loved our out Discovery but two things that I did not like about the new model were;
1) The residetial fridge with its large battery bank and high future cost
2) The pass thru bath and lack of accessability to bunks and back BR when closed up. This would be a bit factor when loading and unloading coach in tight areas.
3) The angled position of living room TV and its associated loss of counter space.
4) The addition of a stove ... no need the a convection microwave
5) Service bay in Berkshire is second to none with its individual water shut off

A couple of things that I prefer about Discovery
1) Pantry
2) Finish of Cabinets

At the end of the day it comes down to personal choice and how much they are willing to pay. No matter what unit you get ... at the end of the day it comes down to compromise .... on finish, layout, price, cabinet, storage etc.

Good Luck ... its a big decision
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:02 PM   #6
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He currently has a 2008 Fleetwood Providence 39R. He found a coach that has the porch that folds out on the passenger side he was interested in.



I told him that is not family friendly - but pretty cool. I have been on him for the last couple of years to get a bunkhouse since he has twin 8-year old boys.

I think one reason he is not seriously considering the Berk is because I have one. We camp together a lot and he wants something different I suppose. Plus he likes the looks of the Fleetwood. It's his money I guess....
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Old 02-05-2012, 04:21 PM   #7
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I am very satisfied with my birkshire......

However, one feature that I liked that both the Discovery and Phaeton had that was not offered on the Berkshire is the king bed. Sure would like to have one.
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:59 AM   #8
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Bama, we've talked about that also. It would have been a nice feature to have, but I don't think there is enough room in the bedroom to move around if they would have put a king in there.

One side note about Tiffin. Apparently there have been some major quality control issues with Tiffin. I don't know if they have resolved those issues yet, but things like cracked roof radiuses, cracked front and end caps, and rotted out wet bays are some pretty serious issues. Right now I would think long and hard about going that route. I hope they have resolved their issues because they have always been a real quality family business that went out of their way for the customer.
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You are right taxman....

a king bed would require taking a foot or so from the other areas of the motorhome and I wouldn't want to give that up either. It's all about comprimises.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:15 PM   #10
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a king bed would require taking a foot or so from the other areas of the motorhome and I wouldn't want to give that up either. It's all about comprimises.
With our smaller beds it allows us to be closer to our significant other!
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