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Old 02-10-2015, 11:51 AM   #11
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Noted...... Just terribly thirsty on diesel. I figured that if running the gen overnight to keep AC running, it is cheaper to check in to a commercial campgound at around $40 per night.

If I seem stingy, remember that I don't use my coach a few nights a year. When you are a fulltimer, $40 per night adds up to a huge chunk of money.

I don't know which model Generator your coach has, but the specs for Onan's 8.0HDKAK show .13gph@idle, and .49gph @half load. Assuming approximately 1/3 load (your looking at 3k portable gens), you should be using about .35gph of diesel. This comes to about 8.4 gallons per 24 hours while running the AC.

According to Hondas own specs, their 3000i Generator would use about the same .35gph to .4gph (.43gph @ full load (2.6k)), and is rated at the about the same db (65) at that load.

Diesel is typically more expensive than gasoline these days, but not by all that much. Plus you then have to store, secure, maintain, and transport that portable gen (and it's fuel) too. Depending on which model you get, it may or may not have an electric start. If it does, you may or may not be able to start it from inside your coach. Runtime on the Honda 3000i is 3.6 hours at full load (which your AC unit will be close to), so you will either have to get up in the middle of the night to refuel or add an extended run tank system.


As to solar (only because you mentioned it vs the cost of a Honda Generator), even if a solar system that would run your AC and fit on your coach existed, where you be when the sun goes down or the clouds come out?

Don't get me wrong, I like the way your thinking (I do the same), but it seems like you may be missing a lot of "cons" to this, as well as expecting more of a return on investment than you will actually see.
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If you do still want to go with a portable Gen (or 2), than you may consider the Smarter Tools AP-2000i. It's priced comparable to the Champion but is built with the Yamaha YZ80 engine (same engine as the Yamaha 2000w inverter generator), is parallel capable (you would need 2 to run your AC), has the same 3 year warranty as the Honda and Yamaha, and the same decibel ratings.

Smarter Tools Don't work harder. Work smarter.

http://www.costco.com/Smarter-Tools-...100121916.html
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Old 02-10-2015, 12:06 PM   #13
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I would investigate repair/warranty service locations.
Per warranty Want to make sure you are not sending to far east.
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returned goods shall be at the Purchaserís risk and expense"
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I would investigate repair/warranty service locations.
Per warranty Want to make sure you are not sending to far east.
" Transportation charges to send products to an authorized warranty repair facility shall be the responsibility of the Purchaser. All
returned goods shall be at the Purchaserís risk and expense"

A very good point! This is kind of along the lines of why I also posted the Costco link. Costco's written return policy is pretty much the same as any other retailers, but their practiced returns system is much better (for those who use it anyway...I'm real bad about not returning ANYTHING...even when I should)
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Boo I think Ernest is in the right track. You have full access to the compartment and there are some very good sound proofing products available. To carry gas and deal with storing another gen seems like a major hassle.
I understand the 40.00$ a night as we full time also. Maybe adding an extra set of batteries and some solar. Also switching to all LEDs. Of course you wouldn't be able to run AC on battery power. We have a good gen on board I don't think a gas model will save you money in the long run.
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A little follow-up to my endorsement of the Champion 3100. It's available now as a remote electric start model and as of Feb.2015, Pinellas has created an external fuel flow kit. There's a YouTube showing the option running and installed by Pinellas. The exclusive sales for the combo are at BottomLineTradingCompany.com (of Marble Falls Texas). Tommy is the owner and he will sell a 3100 electric start with Pinellas extended fuel option pre-installed for $1,250 (Texas sales taxes apply, (512)902-3397). For what it's worth, I have absolutely no connection, personal or business wise with either Pinellas or BLT, just think it's a very nice product at a very nice price.
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Boo I think Ernest is in the right track. You have full access to the compartment and there are some very good sound proofing products available. To carry gas and deal with storing another gen seems like a major hassle.
I understand the 40.00$ a night as we full time also. Maybe adding an extra set of batteries and some solar. Also switching to all LEDs. Of course you wouldn't be able to run AC on battery power. We have a good gen on board I don't think a gas model will save you money in the long run.
Too ALL of you that suggested just using that builtin 8K watt Onan, I've come to the conclusion that I'll just stick with it (only) until I check further for ROI and also how SERIOUS we are on doing LOTS of boondocking.

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Don't get me wrong, I like the way your thinking (I do the same), but it seems like you may be missing a lot of "cons" to this, as well as expecting more of a return on investment than you will actually see.
Thanks for your astute comments.

And as to your comment on cloudy days.....

Well, I rarely go where there aren't clear blue skies, at least 330 days out of the year.

We're in Yuma, AZ right now.

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Look at the kohler inverter generator. It is the most quite on market. I may be biased cause I'm a kolher dealer but they are in fact 2 dB quieter than honda
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Look at the kohler inverter generator. It is the most quite on market. I may be biased cause I'm a kolher dealer but they are in fact 2 dB quieter than honda
Thank your for your input.... I will check them out and get back to you. Perhaps I could even purchase from you if shipping charges are not prohibitive.

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