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Old 10-10-2015, 04:24 PM   #81
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These are messed up too. No driver or passenger?
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Old 10-10-2015, 05:07 PM   #82
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These are messed up too. No driver or passenger?

Nope. That's why I had a upgrade on the front axle.
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Old 10-11-2015, 08:45 AM   #83
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Is this your dry weight??

I've weighed mine several time, but never dry.

boowho??
Prior to getting authorized for the axle/ tires upgrade, I was asked by FR to jump through hoops. FR wanted a four corner empty weight.

I emptied all cargo, kitchen, clothes, books, everything into my garage. I couldn't find four corner weighing, so I got axle weighing at a CAT scale. With me my DW in (300 lbs), half tank of water (350 lbs., full fuel and propane, my weight was:

10,480 lbs front axle
17,280 lbs rear axle

AS you can see, for two light-weight passengers and a half tank of water, I was over the 10,410 lbs GWAR and 220 lbs from the rear axle GWAR. I do have the double wide cargo slide tray; which is the only extra item over a standard 390 BH. As you may note the 340 Berk doesn't even have enough capacity to take a lunch.

FR quite clearly understood that the front axle capacity would do them in and is why they upgraded the front axle to 12,000 lbs. and of course the tires which were at their limits.

After getting authorized, I typically weigh in at 11,120 lbs front and 18,200 lbs. rear. With my light CRV toad, I am like 33,200 lbs total. I feel that the rear axle is actually 19, 000 lbs capable.FR doesn't admit this because if you had 19,000 lbs, the Allison 2500MH would be over limit with your toad. - Hank
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Old 10-12-2015, 09:06 PM   #84
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Prior to getting authorized for the axle/ tires upgrade, I was asked by FR to jump through hoops. FR wanted a four corner empty weight.

I emptied all cargo, kitchen, clothes, books, everything into my garage. I couldn't find four corner weighing, so I got axle weighing at a CAT scale. With me my DW in (300 lbs), half tank of water (350 lbs., full fuel and propane, my weight was:

10,480 lbs front axle
17,280 lbs rear axle

AS you can see, for two light-weight passengers and a half tank of water, I was over the 10,410 lbs GWAR and 220 lbs from the rear axle GWAR. I do have the double wide cargo slide tray; which is the only extra item over a standard 390 BH. As you may note the 340 Berk doesn't even have enough capacity to take a lunch.

FR quite clearly understood that the front axle capacity would do them in and is why they upgraded the front axle to 12,000 lbs. and of course the tires which were at their limits.

After getting authorized, I typically weigh in at 11,120 lbs front and 18,200 lbs. rear. With my light CRV toad, I am like 33,200 lbs total. I feel that the rear axle is actually 19, 000 lbs capable.FR doesn't admit this because if you had 19,000 lbs, the Allison 2500MH would be over limit with your toad. - Hank
Hank, you've done more on this than I, but shouldn't the R/A be good to 19,500?

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Old 10-13-2015, 08:21 AM   #85
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Hank, you've done more on this than I, but shouldn't the R/A be good to 19,500?

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My comparisons of the BOM's (Bills of Materials) show the 340 and 360 to be the same. As I previously stated that I typically weigh-in around 18,100 lbs at the rear axle. I wouldn't be able to carry my lunch if I didn't go over.

If one was to be 19,000 rear and 12,000 front, the total GVWR is then 31,000 lbs, leaving 2,000lbs for your toad because of the 33,000 lbs GCWR due to the Allison 2500MH. This is why FR is mum on the subject.

I will not endorse to anyone that the rear axle can carry 19,000 lbs., however. It is each motorhome's owner's decision. - Hank
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Old 10-13-2015, 09:13 PM   #86
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I was not able to add in to the conversation as I did not have my coach until late last week.

I have a 2008 390QS not bunk house. I have a cargo capacity of 3676 lbs dry. With full water, propane and fuel it is 2492 lbs. I had the coach weighted at Goshen and came in 100 lbs over in the rear. Last spring I upgraded my tires to XZA2 which can carry an addition 1500 lbs over the XRV that came on the coach so I think I am OK. What I did find interesting was my front weights matched to the pound however my rear weight weight showed the passenger side 1000 pounds heaver than the driver side. I put effort into balancing my cargo load. I had full water and about 3/4 propane and full fuel. Looking at the coach I cannot figure where the 1000 pounds is on the passenger side. I wounder if the scales were accurate or what Forest River has done.

Has anyone else got actual rear weights?
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So, I've gotten a lot of good info from you folks on this thread, but, back to my original question.

Would removing my slide out cargo tray save enough weight to make it worthwhile?
I've sent an email to FR customer service but haven't gotten a rely back yet.


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So, I've gotten a lot of good info from you folks on this thread, but, back to my original question.

Would removing my slide out cargo tray save enough weight to make it worthwhile?
I've sent an email to FR customer service but haven't gotten a rely back yet.


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No. The convenience far exceeds the added weight. IMHO


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Old 10-18-2015, 05:24 PM   #89
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Weighs about 100 lbs. Not much in the grand scheme of things.
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I would only consider removing the tray if i needed the hight for storage. I don't have anything that tall that I haul around so I keep the tray. I agree the convenience out is greater than any weight savings.
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