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Old 01-07-2015, 06:35 PM   #11
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Old 01-07-2015, 06:47 PM   #12
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if the antifreeze in the engine is good for 50 below( or even 20 or so ) you don't have to plug in
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Old 01-07-2015, 08:10 PM   #13
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No need to plug in a heater when the temp is in the teens if you don't plan to go anywhere. A warm engine will be use fewer amps to start as the oil will be less vicious. Some diesels may have an ether sniffer (usually an option) for cold weather starts but probably not used on MH's. Cold weather will cause lots of problems with diesel power if you don't maintain them properly. It is important you keep water out of your air reservoir and there is a caution not to idle the engine for long periods of time in cold weather as it can cause icing in air lines. I doubt that MH's will have an methanol/alcohol injector installed in the air line as that is usually an optional accessory. In warm humid climates like Florida you should drain your air system daily when you have been running the engine, actually it is best to drain your air tank in any climate on a daily basis. Kind of like flying (take offs are optional, landings are mandatory) with air brakes starting to move is optional but stopping is mandatory.
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Old 01-07-2015, 08:40 PM   #14
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1) Wind chill does nothing for machinery. It is a guestimate of what our skin feels like. Plan on what the ambient temperature is.
2) Being a diesel owner, if you can plug in, plug it in. She will be grateful for it. There is a world of difference when I plug mine in.
3) In cold weather like that, I would give it 5 to 10 minutes before driving off. Let the gauges start to creep up off the C
4) Make sure you have fuel conditioner. I have been using and happy with Optilube XDP.

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Old 01-07-2015, 08:46 PM   #15
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Most engine wear occurs at start up, why would you go through that to see if it will run, starting and letting idle will do nothing to recharge the batteries to the level they were before you started it. Plug it in for a few hours before you leave, fire it up, wait 5 minutes and roll on out, if you don't have good fuel in it an additive would be my biggest concern at this point.
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Old 01-07-2015, 09:06 PM   #16
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In very cold weather it helps to warm up the battery also. I used to put a 100w bulb next to the battery and it really helps, you'd be surprised how much heat they give off. There are heating pads for batteries if you are in continuous cold climates. You need 110v to plug into for them also.
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Old 01-12-2015, 07:42 PM   #17
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Many thanks to all for your replies. As an after action review I am letting everyone know how it went:
I did have proper fuel for the weather, plugged in the block heater the day before. Day of trip it started right up and ran fine. I set the idle at 1000 rpm to warm engine/turbo- all was well until I pulled onto the road. The coach had no power and was belching dark smoke. Because of traffic I had to keep going a ways before I was able to pull over but did that at 5 miles an hour. Turns out the DEF lines were frozen and the tank very firm slush. At idle it was fine so I let warm some more. After another 20 minutes the DEF warmed up and we were ready to roll. I did the idle again at 1000 rpm. I never considered the DEF tank/lines, but won't make that mistake again.


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Old 01-12-2015, 07:52 PM   #18
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EF is little more than water and urea so ya.
Warming up an oil burner takes longer because of the extra metal and now the DEF needs time to circulate and warm up unless your DEF tank has a heater in it.
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Thank the government for one more crappy EPA system to make a simple diesel system complicated and expensive.
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Old 01-12-2015, 09:21 PM   #20
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if the antifreeze in the engine is good for 50 below( or even 20 or so ) you don't have to plug in
Not sure where you're coming from here dude, but I respectfully disagree. The AF in the engine will have no effect on gelled diesel fuel before starting. You want the engine to be warm so the fuel will flow, plus then you get warmed fuel going back to the tank via the return, helping keep everything flowing. If you can plug it in, plug it in. Antifreeze is irrelevant.

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Thank the government for one more crappy EPA system to make a simple diesel system complicated and expensive.
Amen, brother. The DEF is yet another way to gunk up the machine, but at least the diesels with DPF get better mileage since they added the DEF. Hotter tune, supposedly. Personally, I'd like to get rid of all that EPA crap on my truck, but that's another thread...
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