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10-28-2015, 07:41 PM
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Update on Girrard generation 3
We are still loving it, and highly recommend it!
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10-28-2015, 09:52 PM
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Is it loud? We have a gen 2, and when that thing spools up it sounds like you fired off the engine.
We have friends with a tiffin and theirs is quiet. I think it is an Atwood.
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10-28-2015, 10:27 PM
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I now have a Atwood and the only way I know it's on( besides the water is hot) is the red light is on.
Great to hear the gen 3 is working so good.
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10-28-2015, 10:43 PM
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I wonder if it uses the same access door as gen 1?
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2 Lab Dogs-Eros and Star
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10-28-2015, 10:51 PM
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Glad to hear about the gen 3. My gen 2 is loud. Also, if it rains, it does not work. Even if the area is visibly dry, the moisture in the air does something to it and it goes into lockout mode. If I can introduce some heat, it usually starts to work. Go figure.
Question for anyone that has upgraded to either model, is it something that can be done without taking it to a service center? We have moved to an area that is devoid of any service and I'm not looking to drive more than an hour to do something I may be able to do myself. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
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10-29-2015, 02:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JJvike
Glad to hear about the gen 3. My gen 2 is loud. Also, if it rains, it does not work. Even if the area is visibly dry, the moisture in the air does something to it and it goes into lockout mode. If I can introduce some heat, it usually starts to work. Go figure.
Question for anyone that has upgraded to either model, is it something that can be done without taking it to a service center? We have moved to an area that is devoid of any service and I'm not looking to drive more than an hour to do something I may be able to do myself. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
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I would say it's a big job to do in your driveway. The box is bigger on a Atwood and it is a tough install. Also the door on both require painting.
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10-29-2015, 07:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TwiceTheIce
We are still loving it, and highly recommend it!
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Great to hear your experience. I will be changing out my Gen I when I get a chance. See the previous thread for more info. on the Gen III......
http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ner-92574.html
Hank
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10-29-2015, 07:33 PM
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Installation is within the abilities of most owners. The unit utilizes the original (gen 2) hole. You may have to extend the length of water lines a couple inches--no big deal with quick connectors. I cannot hear it--the only way you know it is on is the water is hot and the control panel lights up with outgoing temperature.
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10-30-2015, 08:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil57
I now have a Atwood and the only way I know it's on( besides the water is hot) is the red light is on.
Great to hear the gen 3 is working so good.
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Dang it! Now I may have to spend some $$$ to get the silence...
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2016 Entegra Anthem 44B
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10-30-2015, 08:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by baddmann
Dang it! Now I may have to spend some $$$ to get the silence...
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I laughed about that post. My Gen 2 was so loud would wake me up if Dianna ran the hot water. Crazy loud. When we got home from having it changed to the Atwood I turned in the hot water and nothing I was kind of mad for a second as u thought it wasn't working. Then the water got hot. So far very happy with the Atwood but I do believe the Gen 3 has it beat.
I did not change mine out. My comment about it being so difficult was based on the tech at FR saying what a PIA it was to change. So don't take my word on it. Those that have done it themselves would know much better than me.
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11-05-2015, 08:19 AM
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Phil, did you have hot/cold cycling problems with gen 1, and how abot the Atwood?
Rich
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11-05-2015, 10:20 AM
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Rich I had lots of problems with Gen l. They put a Gen ll in and that was better. The problem with the Gen ll was parts and switches kept failing. So the Atwood has been in for 2-3 months and it works great. Plenty of hot water. One big draw back if the Atwood is the temp control is outside. So any adjustment requires the removal of the cover. Not a huge deal. I can mix hit and cold water but it's still going to trip the high temp switch if not enough water if going through the WH. I believe the Gen lll mixes hot and cold better from the reviews.
Bottom line is the Atwood us a huge improvement over the Gen ll.
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11-05-2015, 03:29 PM
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Rich, I think I might have the gen II in my 2014. When we first started using it one of the wise souls on this forum, not Phil57, told me how to adjust the heater. With the shower on full hot adjust the knob in the medicine cabinet until the hot water is comfortable. I found that this had to be done frequently due to the outside ambient temperature swings probably 10-15°. Give that a try.
Paul
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11-05-2015, 03:42 PM
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Oh man that hurts...ok I'm over it. I think that everyone with builds after 2012 should have a Gen ll. The Gen l did not have the adjustable BTU output in side the Moho. If you have an adjustment you have a Gen ll. I will now shut up so the wise ones can interject their wise words on us.
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11-05-2015, 03:52 PM
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Well lah di dah!! See Phil, you are not the only one who can make useful suggestions.
That was me that posted about setting the hot water to a temp that you don't need to mix in any cold water to make it comfortable. Works fine that way for me!
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11-05-2015, 04:05 PM
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Tried it that way guys and water was still very hot all the way down (girly man?)
Rich
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11-05-2015, 04:08 PM
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Rich if you get a chance have someone turn the adjustment up and down while you watch the flame. I had a problem with mine and had to replace something to make it work. I don't remember what part it was. Also once that chamber gets hot it takes a bit to cool off.
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11-05-2015, 04:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tmmar
Well lah di dah!! See Phil, you are not the only one who can make useful suggestions.
That was me that posted about setting the hot water to a temp that you don't need to mix in any cold water to make it comfortable. Works fine that way for me!
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So do we have to call Tom the "wise one" from now on?
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11-05-2015, 04:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil57
So do we have to call Tom the "wise one" from now on?
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Me thinks a daily award for "wise one"
Rich
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11-05-2015, 04:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gasman94
Me thinks a daily award for "wise one"
Rich
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I'll second that👍
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