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Old 12-01-2015, 12:27 PM   #11
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Tom, it just controls cruise, wipers, and headlight/marker lamp flash functions. Probably not enough of an improvement for me to make the investment/switch/upgrade on my current coach. Would be nice to have on next coach, though. Maybe by then it will offer even more features/functionality.


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I agree. Not much of improvement to make the change unless the cost is very low.
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Old 12-01-2015, 05:22 PM   #12
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Here you go. Wiring diagram for smart wheel.
http://www.rvtechlibrary.com/electro...lSchematic.pdf

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Old 12-01-2015, 05:30 PM   #13
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I'm so use to the controls now I'd be as screwed up as Hogans goat😘


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Old 12-01-2015, 06:41 PM   #14
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Well tougher / more expensive than I would have thought. Response to my email to VIP wheels.



Hi Joseph,

In order to put a SmartWheel in a coach that wasnt originally so equipped, you would likely have to replace the steering column from the floorboards up, add the wheel, horn pad and controller and then wire the affected systems (cruise, headlamps, marker lamps & wipers) into the controller. Its been done, but its not an afternoon project. The column looks the same externally, but the SmartWheel requires a clockspring-equipped column. The clockspring and non-clockspring versions of the column are different enough that you cant just add a clockspring.

You could do a direct upgrade to the Wood/Leather wheel that the top end SmartWheel is built on without the controls. Just picture the following without the switch pods. http://www.vipwheels.com/sites/defau...photos/V44.jpg

Your note is the 2nd today to cross my desk regarding the Berkshire, looks like FR is missing an opportunity here! Let me know if you have any other questions.

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Old 12-01-2015, 06:56 PM   #15
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Well I guess that answers the question! Don't think anyone will be doing the swap anytime soon. I can just imagine the issues that would arise by rewiring everything.
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Old 12-01-2015, 07:05 PM   #16
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We have the 2011 Berkshire 410QS. It came with a smart wheel. It controls wipers, cruse, lights etc. Doesn't control radio.


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Old 12-02-2015, 09:59 AM   #17
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[QUOTE=BamaBob;1047231]One thing that irritates me about the 2016 Berkshire is Forest River's failure to update to a VIP Smart Wheel...I mean, seriously, entry Level autos come equipped with Smart Wheels these days, why is this feature missing on a $200K+ MoHo?!

Bob, I complained about this many times. The Berkshire, even with the so-call Smart Wheel, should provide the ability to flash the high-beams (with head-lights on or off. High-Beam flashing has been provided in cars and pick-ups for years, as standard. After all, conveniences like motorized side mirrors, power door lock, intermittent wipers, etc., etc. are now standards.

I feel that Freightliner is also as much a blame as FR. FR probably doesn't install it because prospective buyers and even seasoned owners don't know anything about it, and are not crying for it. Thus FR just pockets the extra cost that they would have put out for the Smart Wheel,. Besides the high-beam flashing provided by the Smart Wheel, yes I'd like the other features as well.

I do not get it, that a high ticket Berkshire comes with a Dumb Wheel.

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Old 12-02-2015, 10:22 AM   #18
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We have the 2011 Berkshire 410QS. It came with a smart wheel. It controls wipers, cruse, lights etc. Doesn't control radio.


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Maria,

I am assuming you bought your unit used? That is proof of concept that it IS possible to add (at least) a basic smart wheel!
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Joe,

Yeah I got the same email from Dan @ VIP. I replied and asked him what it would cost in Parts to make the change. I am waiting for a reply back and when I hear from him, I'll share with the group.

Like y'all, I am really irritated that the Berkshire - especially the top of the line XLT - does not have at least a basic Smart Wheel. If Forest River wants to directly compete with Newmar Ventana, they better get off the dime and install a Smart Wheel, since it is standard equipment on the Ventana!
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Maria,

I am assuming you bought your unit used? That is proof of concept that it IS possible to add (at least) a basic smart wheel!
Hey Bama, I don't want to speak for Maria, but I believe the 410qs was a limited run coach with a (425hp?) motor among other things. It may have been on another chassis, which could explain the smart wheel. Interestingly, there was an earlier Charleston model 410qs. Maybe the limited run 410qs Berks were based on some leftover 410qs Charleston chassis before they were model year upgraded. Just thinking out loud here....


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