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07-22-2014, 08:22 PM
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Yes; another slide question
I am 1,900 miles from home, in Bismarck, ND and worrying about my kitchen slide. Upon extending, it shakes like a wagon wheel going over a cobblestone road. When it comes in, it does so smoothly. Not broken yet, but sure sounds like it is on the way. I have a 2012 390 BH. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Hank
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07-22-2014, 08:34 PM
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My kitchen slide was doing that last weekend. Come to fine out that my slide topper was "grabbing" in the middle. So as the topper was rubbing and trying to climb over the top of the edge of slide, slide would bounce. Second topper thats been on there mind you. First one wore from the rubbing. Check it out on yours. Maybe all that it is.
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07-22-2014, 08:42 PM
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Ida, thank you, I will check that.
hank
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07-22-2014, 09:54 PM
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Are you continuously holding down the out button?
I notice if I stop while sliding mine does that.
If possible have someone push the out button while you look at it from the outside. You might see something that would be causing it.
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07-22-2014, 09:54 PM
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Make sure nothing is bindind especially underneath. Have you lubricated the slide guide underneath. There are 2 gears on each end of the timing rod. If they bind the ends will bind and bend the shaft and you will be totally screwed. Believe me I learned from experience. Do Not force anything.
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07-25-2014, 01:09 AM
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There are three grease zerts on the timing bar. Mine were bone dry. Also lube the gears and slides and seals. This all makes a big difference on a healthy slide mechanism but yours could be broken don't force it like Marty said it will make a mess.
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07-25-2014, 08:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil57
There are three grease zerts on the timing bar. Mine were bone dry. Also lube the gears and slides and seals. This all makes a big difference on a healthy slide mechanism but yours could be broken don't force it like Marty said it will make a mess.
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Thank's for the advice Phil. I know where the zeros are, but as for the gears, how do you grease them?
Hank
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07-25-2014, 08:53 AM
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Blasted computer, You know I meant zerts and not zeroes.
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07-25-2014, 08:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by I-RV
Blasted computer, You know I meant zerts and not zeroes.
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You could call them (Zerks) and really have it correct! Youroo!!
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07-25-2014, 09:27 AM
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Zerks? Well anyone that knows me knows I'm one step from illiterate. Any way Hank I use these products in the slide. I use the gear lub in the channel that the gear runs on. Also treat all the seals and white nylon roller the slide slides on. I greased the zerks all six and treated the seals and lubed the gears all at the same time. It made the slide smoother than it ever was. Not sure which did the most but they all needed it.
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07-26-2014, 05:38 AM
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Phil,
Which product did you use on the nylon rollers? I think the Slide Out dry lube says something about not using it on plastic so I didn't put it on the rollers.
Tom
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07-26-2014, 07:34 AM
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Sorry Tom I have a spray bottle of 303 that I use on those. Not sure if that's the best but it seems to work. All in all my slides work better with all this done. Still it's moving a major part of our house every time it's opened and closed so it's better but still it shakes and groans.
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07-26-2014, 07:55 AM
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I'm new to "slide outs" first rig having them.
My Wildcat 30LRLBS has 2 and as the go in and out the rubber squeaks some time as they slide.... is the 'rubber spray lube' safe if it gets on the other surfaces...inside or out ?
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07-26-2014, 09:55 AM
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I spray it on a rag first. It is a heavy foam not a fine mist.
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07-30-2014, 06:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil57
Zerks? Well anyone that knows me knows I'm one step from illiterate. Any way Hank I use these products in the slide. I use the gear lub in the channel that the gear runs on. Also treat all the seals and white nylon roller the slide slides on. I greased the zerks all six and treated the seals and lubed the gears all at the same time. It made the slide smoother than it ever was. Not sure which did the most but they all needed it. Attachment 58961
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I would think that some sort of grease would be needed on the main support bars.
It appears to me that these bars telescope; the smaller into the larger.
Surely these support bars (there are two; one front, one rear) need to be lubed themselves (where one slides into the other)??
Anyone lubed the bar assembly itself?
I did find the rack that the timing gears engage; it is inside the smaller bar I mentioned above.
BTW, timing gear/shaft seems like a misnomer to me. I believe that assembly is there to keep the slide from going in crooked and then jamming.
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07-30-2014, 08:59 PM
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grease off slides
The previous owners only owned my (new to me) 5th wheel for 3 months.
They planned to use it while they built their house, but that didn't happen.
Not at all knowledgeable about 5th wheels and definitely knew nothing about slides. I suppose he thought he was doing the next owner a favour when he applied blue grease to the slide tubes....liberally !
I removed it all today , first with putty knife, then paper towel then a rag.
I then sprayed the bars with brake cleaner and wiped with a clean rag.
No trace of grease now...but I suspect I will get some residue each time the slides go in and out for a while.
The hydraulic ram was untouched....thank goodness .
Tomorrow I will apply the proper dry lube sray...to the tube shafts and gear mechanism....
Question: is this gear mechanism called the " timing gear shaft'" as -'boowho' pervious post referred to?
See photos.
Also... is there anyway that this 'gear' an be used to close the slide in the event that hydraulic pump should fail ?....just a thought
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08-02-2014, 08:22 PM
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Islander, the rack shown in one of your pics are on the INSIDE of the main telescoping support beam on Berkshire slides.
The shaft with it's gear goes thru a slot that extends all the way along the length one side of the smaller (inner) support beam.
I just think that if I have two rectangular telescoping support bars/beams and those beams are supporting a good part of the slide weight, I think there MUST be some lube in there somewhere. And, I'd think the more the better. But, I may be wrong....
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08-03-2014, 08:29 AM
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"boowho".....
Thanks for the reply,
I am of the same thinking as you -steel to steel- needs some form of lubricant , especially when it comes to square tubular shafts telescoping.
However, I brought up my 'grease' question in another thread earlier and some senior members confirmed that using grease was 'not' the way to go.
I would suggest that you read a thread titled "slides"....
here> http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...des-65220.html
I have bought some dry lube to use on my square shafts but not on the ram shaft.
I have a piece of split plastic, normally used to cover a close closet hanger rod, that I use to slip over the ram shaft so no spray gets on it, to protect the seals . ...I do this because the ram shaft is so close to the square slide shafts.
Hope this helps
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