Does anyone actually have Satellite internet? Please share!

[Boondockin]

I'm trying to get a list of satellite internet providers. HELP, please send me websites!!!

No, cell phones don't work here.
No, don't need TV, just internet.

Hughsnet, one of the bigger names will not install on an RV. It is possible to get hughsnet service through a reseller on an RV. Looking for list of the resellers. Would love to get input as to pricing an quality of service!

[valleyduo]

Found a company... www.mobilsat.com. Can't tell you anything about them just did a quick search. Doesn't seem to be much selection for mobile satellite internet yet. You've probably already tried something, but would a 4g signal booster possibly help your situation?

[ependydad]

Check out www.rvmobileinternet.com for the latest and greatest internet offerings for RVers. They don’t offer service, they just offer information on plans and offerings.

[Boondockin]

Originally Posted by valleyduo

Found a company... www.mobilsat.com. Can't tell you anything about them just did a quick search. Doesn't seem to be much selection for mobile satellite internet yet. You've probably already tried something, but would a 4g signal booster possibly help your situation?

Thanks, I have seen their website.

After 15 minutes I couldn't figure out what it would actually cost.

I've found the same on all the sellers websites found so far, a design so poor I can't figure out what exactly I need and it will cost.

I mean really...you go to one page...here are $/month options, and hardware it works with. Then go to the hardware page, can't find that hardware.

At this point I'm looking for anyone that has actually bought a system and has/had it running recently.

[Boondockin]

Originally Posted by ependydad

Check out www.rvmobileinternet.com for the latest and greatest internet offerings for RVers. They don’t offer service, they just offer information on plans and offerings.

Your post looked very promising. I was excited!

Then go to the page, and it's a marketing major doing his sr project. Links that link back to the page it's on. No actual content, just the obvious stuff like Satellite cost the most and has the most latency. No crap, i know that already.

At this point I just need input from people that actually have sat service!

[Boondockin]

See title.

Trying to get Sat internet at seasonal site. Need input from people that actually have service without a permanent structure.

I'll install a ground and concrete footer below the frost line if needed, just don't have a house there. Hughsnet came out to install, and refused to due to no permanent structure. The Hughsnet prices weren't too bad, free install and can 'snowbird' the service during unused months.

I've been told a VAR (reseller) can sell hughsnet service for mobile use. Great! Anyone actually doing this without paying a ton more that hughsnet direct?

Help anyone!!!

[Boondockin]

Created a new thread with maybe a better title..


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I don't want to get yelled at for spamming the site with too many similar posts, should I delete this thread?

[Mr. Dan]

Originally Posted by Boondockin

Created a new thread with maybe a better title..

[Site Team Note: threads merged; title changed; link to 2nd thread deleted.]

I don't want to get yelled at for spamming the site with too many similar posts, should I delete this thread?

We won't leave both threads up so that some members answer one and some members answer the other.



Do you want us to put the new thread's title on this one and delete the new thread? That appears to be what you want?


Dan
Site Team

[ependydad]

Originally Posted by Boondockin

Your post looked very promising. I was excited!

Then go to the page, and it's a marketing major doing his sr project. Links that link back to the page it's on. No actual content, just the obvious stuff like Satellite cost the most and has the most latency. No crap, i know that already.

At this point I just need input from people that actually have sat service!

I have been a member of their site for years. The consolidated information you’ll find there is unparalleled.

I know they have a page that covers data plans that is publicly accessible. I don’t know if it covers satellite plans. And frankly, with your cocky attitude, I have no interest in helping to locate anything for you.

Good luck finding what you need.

[ependydad]

Attitude aside, here’s an article of someone I know who added satellite to his fulltime setup:
https://xscapers.com/adding-satellit...rnet-to-my-rv/

[kayo]

try mobileinternetsatellite.com. I have been doping business with them for several years

[rlh1957]

Satellite internet will always have a lag and latency. Even when buffered. When there is no Wi-Fi near, no cell towers, no cables then satellite may be the only option. But as your main internet connection it's not ideal no matter what the cost.

[boatcat AH6NR]

https://www.mobileinternetsatellite.com/
As previously suggested these are gret people. They helped me and I know them personally.

[NXR]

Originally Posted by rlh1957

Satellite internet will always have a lag and latency. Even when buffered. When there is no Wi-Fi near, no cell towers, no cables then satellite may be the only option. But as your main internet connection it's not ideal no matter what the cost.

Agreed and "not ideal" usually means "painful".

To amplify on that a bit, normal Internet latency, the time it takes for data to leave your device, go where it's headed and return, is roughly 0.1 second (yes, I know it can be more or less). This is called the Round Trip Time (RTT).

When dealing with satellites the RTT latency with a geostationary satellite is about one-quarter of a second. While that does not sound like much of a difference, it really is. The reason is that data leaves your PC in chunks called packets and returns the same way. It can take hundreds or thousands of packets to retrieve a web page and each packet has that RTT latency so the delays really add up fast. In addition other delays can be introduced in the satellites themselves and ground stations.

In addition, your device normally needs to send an acknowledgement that it received each packet OK. If the acknowledgement is not received by the web site, it resends the data. So there is a lot of uploading for packet reception acknowledgements in addition to the data coming back to you.

So the packet coming from the web site is one-quarter second and the acknowledgement from your PC going back is another quarter-second. Those half-seconds really add up fast.

This is why home systems that use satellite Internet can use the satellite link for the download portion but can use a plain old telephone line for the acknowledgement (uploads), to reduce the RTT delays.

Ray

[TomM]

I have a trailer in a RV Park and I use it in the winter and close it up in the summer. I use Exceed/Viasat and get excellent WiFi service. You have to pay for a data plan and modem. You use your own router. I put it on vacation in the summer and only pay $9/month

[BandJCarm]

Originally Posted by NXR

Agreed and "not ideal" usually means "painful".

To amplify on that a bit, normal Internet latency, the time it takes for data to leave your device, go where it's headed and return, is roughly 0.1 second (yes, I know it can be more or less). This is called the Round Trip Time (RTT).

When dealing with satellites the RTT latency with a geostationary satellite is about one-quarter of a second. While that does not sound like much of a difference, it really is. The reason is that data leaves your PC in chunks called packets and returns the same way. It can take hundreds or thousands of packets to retrieve a web page and each packet has that RTT latency so the delays really add up fast. In addition other delays can be introduced in the satellites themselves and ground stations.

In addition, your device normally needs to send an acknowledgement that it received each packet OK. If the acknowledgement is not received by the web site, it resends the data. So there is a lot of uploading for packet reception acknowledgements in addition to the data coming back to you.

So the packet coming from the web site is one-quarter second and the acknowledgement from your PC going back is another quarter-second. Those half-seconds really add up fast.

This is why home systems that use satellite Internet can use the satellite link for the download portion but can use a plain old telephone line for the acknowledgement (uploads), to reduce the RTT delays.

Ray

Boy, I'm long removed/retired from it all, but it was/is my understanding that TCP/IP does not utilize an ACK to transmissions.......that was the 'beauty' if it, speeding things up. X.25 did the ACK/NACK for each part of a transmission. VERY reliable, VERY slow. I'm not sure ATM did that or not, but it was a short lived potential replacement for X.25.


I might be wrong. My last tech dealings was with MPLS.


Regardless, Satellite Internet is going to frustrate most folks. Sort of like Dial up used to be.

[Boondockin]

Originally Posted by rlh1957

Satellite internet will always have a lag and latency. Even when buffered. When there is no Wi-Fi near, no cell towers, no cables then satellite may be the only option. But as your main internet connection it's not ideal no matter what the cost.

You and those echoing this statement are correct. It's the least ideal solution. Possibly the worst user experience, at possibly the highest cost.

Unfortunately, 90% of the websites out there echo this high school level of knowledge.