Hughes Autoform vs. PI EMS-PT30C

[325BH]

Originally Posted by BamaBob

Nah I was just posting general useless information that floats around in my head

I DO need to make a correction though!

I said: Remember 'Quickly?' well the only reason I bothered hurting your head with these terms is this: since a spike can fry your electronics at 1 nanosecond, make sure that your surge suppressor has a listed response time of under 1 second

That should be 1 NANOsecond!

You know... I completely missed that in your post. I just read what you meant I guess!

[SailorSam20500]

I ended up sending the question to Progressive. Their answer in a nutshell is: it's okay to daisy chain a Hughes Autoformer with surge suppression with the PI EMS units. They specify the correct sequence as power source -> Hughes -> PI EMS -> trailer. Since we have the same answer from both companies, there shouldn't be any warranty issues.

[325BH]

Originally Posted by SailorSam20500

I ended up sending the question to Progressive. Their answer in a nutshell is: it's okay to daisy chain a Hughes Autoformer with surge suppression with the PI EMS units. They specify the correct sequence as power source -> Hughes -> PI EMS -> trailer. Since we have the same answer from both companies, there shouldn't be any warranty issues.

Cool!

I only heard back from Hughes; never got a response from PI.

Thanks.

Camp on!

[windsurfdog]

Thanks for the suggested mounting tips, 325BH and BamaBob. The idea of buying or fabricating an extra 5-10 foot cord and using the area under the trailer for security and weather protection is quite appealing to me. My trailer has 3 steps plus door entry level so there is plenty of room underneath to facilitate setup/breakdown.

So I'm thinking a good setup procedure would be to plug in the PI immediately upon arrival and have it check out the pedestal then, when satisfied with electrical service, pull the PI and setup for camping.

Many thanks to all players! If anyone has more ideas for mounting, I'd enjoy the possibilities. Otherwise, thanks to all for sharing your expertise and opinions!

[HyperCamp]

I'll just throw my opinion into the fire. We use the Hughes, and have had zero issues.
Camp on!!

[VinceU]

To the doubting Thomas about RV codes and inspection. NFPA and NEC have been adopted nationwide as the standards of choice for construction and maintenance. Ft and others adhere to these rules and all RVs have the same sometimes odd features i.e.:vac breaker/check valve for tank wash water supply. No home, building, boat etc is built or designed without NFPA/NEC input. The auto transformer rules we found under the RV section of NEC. I no longer have access to the full guides, an electrician would.
This is not the same as RVIA, safety rules are published under Fed.Register and carry the same weight as laws.


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