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Old 03-24-2016, 07:59 PM   #11
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I can tell you = $39.99 a pair. Just received them from Crutchfield for my Berkshire. Getting installed this weekend to replace the junk 2" ceiling speakers.

Audio distortion comes from lack of power.
Upgrading the speakers, without more power to control the voice coil, will only result in more distortion at moderate to high levels...


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Old 03-24-2016, 08:17 PM   #12
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I can tell you = $39.99 a pair. Just received them from Crutchfield for my Berkshire. Getting installed this weekend to replace the junk 2" ceiling speakers.
Randy, the prior poster is wrong. The radio will sound much better with those new speakers. It sounds like you're having someone else install them? If they are recessed type speakers there is not enough room to recess them up in the ceiling. I have to use 2 Inch spacers to mount them on ceiling. I posted a how-to guide the Forum sometime back. I'll see if I can find it if you like?
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Old 03-24-2016, 08:40 PM   #13
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Randy, the prior poster is wrong. The radio will sound much better with those new speakers. It sounds like you're having someone else install them? If they are recessed type speakers there is not enough room to recess them up in the ceiling. I have to use 2 Inch spacers to mount them on ceiling. I posted a how-to guide the Forum sometime back. I'll see if I can find it if you like?

Ha...
What qualifies that opinion?

I have 10 years car audio/mobile electronics experience.

Although, you can't expect any low-mid range out of a 2" driver.


If anyone wants a qualified opinion , send me a pm.

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Old 03-24-2016, 09:05 PM   #14
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Audio distortion comes from lack of power.
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Yep...this is audio 101. Any Audiophile knows that underpowered speakers cause more distortion.

Most people have under powered speakers...they go buy 400 watt speakers for a stereo that puts out 40 and wonder why it sounds like crap.

You want speakers to match the stereo output...and unlike what most people think you would get better sound from slightly overpowered speakers than way under powered. You will actually do more damage to a speaker from under powering it and turning up the volume....than you would from a speaker that was rated slightly less than the output of the stereo amp. Not saying you should overpower speakers at all but just a point.

The output of the stock audio systems are weak at best so you would be best to come fairly close to matching speakers to that.

Or not...I don't care....but my RV audio system sounds superior to most any RV out there and I did not spend wads of cash. Just replaced the system with another but better Rv system and matched the speakers with two pairs that were rated close to the stereo output.
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Old 03-24-2016, 09:16 PM   #15
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Here's the lay mans terms.

A civic has a 4 banger engine.
Imagine taking that 4 banger, and putting it in a 3500 truck. Underpowered.

The last full system I built was in my Mini Cooper.

The front 3 way Morel speakers, had a rating of 200 watts.
I was feeding them almost triple that.

I hope this qualifies my opinion.

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and you guys think Randy bought 400 watt speakers for $39. Haha
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The Berkshire come with small 2 inch speakers. Replacing them for six inch speakers makes all the difference while driving down the road. No amp necessary needed. Many of us have done it including me. You can read the radio manual and match a new speaker it is not hard.

As for Kenny K. Last time you touted your expertise on this forum you were a diesel mechanic for the past 20 years. Now you are a audio expert for the past 10 years. which is it???
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Sorry, I just did a quick reply regarding speakers. Apparently I should have put more info so not to offend any of them audiophiles. I received alot of tips from everyone on this forum so here goes: The ol' girl is receiving some system upgrades this winter to get the electronics out of 2008. My son and I installed a new Dash trim panel we got from Andy at FR. We then put in a Kenwood Dnx571tr (plus installed my CB for those long trips to keep Dad amused) the sound was much improved with the new head until but very tinny and factory still. I'm hoping the new speakers 30W 6 1/2" with the Retrosound rp0d6 surface mount modues were installing this weekend will make a big difference? Also ordered a new flat screen for the back bedroom and a set of Bose Companion III computer speakers so hopefully Pixar can drown out the Cummins on a long trip?
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Old 03-25-2016, 08:39 AM   #19
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As for Kenny K. Last time you touted your expertise on this forum you were a diesel mechanic for the past 20 years. Now you are a audio expert for the past 10 years. which is it???

Hmmm.. I don't recall the 20 years automotive.

But there was a progression.
Since you are SO interested in my careers, I will tell you.
Try to keep up, old chap!


It all started back in high school.
I took every automotive program I could get my hands on.
Mobile electronics was getting big.
I enjoyed the electrical and diagnostic side of automotive tech.
I went to a school in Toronto for mobile electronics, and completed my MECP installer, First Class.
Came back to Manitoba, and worked at a few stereo shops, eventually opening my own car audio/ performance shop.
That didn't last as long as I would have had liked it to... But anyways.
I ran an install bay at the local visions electronics.
While still doing custom builds on the side.

My new bride at the time had just finished her bachelor of education.
She landed a job in another city, so we moved.
No longer the proper size for squeezing under dashes, I was offered a job at the dodge dealer.
Worked there for a bit, went to ford for a while, then decided I didn't want to work during the summer.
The DW is a teacher, why not me?
Now? I'm an automotive technology instructor at a local high school.

I work about 183 days a year, and I love it.

So yes... I do have experience in many areas.


There you go silver.....


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