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Old 06-09-2014, 07:37 PM   #1
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Need help with speaker

I have a 2012 Flagstaff Micro-Lite 21 FBRS that has one bad speaker. I have a Genesis 2.0 system. When I first received the trailer the A and B speakers would not work, only the outside C speakers worked. I pulled the Genesis and found the wiring to the speakers, about 2/3 of them had the + and - crossed. Corrected this, then I checked them with a ohm meter and found all speakers to have 4 ohms each except one which was open. Everything is working now but I need the one speaker that was open. Anyone know where I purchase one and how do I remove it from the ceiling, I see no screws so I assume it snaps out but I'm afraid to try without knowing. Enclosed is a pic of the speaker if I can figure out how.
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Old 06-09-2014, 07:47 PM   #2
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The screws are probably under the white mesh grill. That's where they were located on the speakers in our TT and flush mount speakers that I have installed in homes.

A metal dental pic is the ideal tool to remove the grill, but I have also used the tip of a razor knife or jewellers screw driver to gently ease the grill off at one of the outside edges.

The speakers in our TT are different than the ones in your picture, but I found the replacement for ours at crutchfield.com
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:45 AM   #3
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I would say where the seam is they should be able to be pried open that way. I also have the 2.0 system. Are your outside speaker volume a lot lower than the inside? A has 4 speakers like yours 2 speakers up over the bed in the cabinet and 2 outside speakers on C. Check out my post on this subject. Thanks
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Old 06-10-2014, 08:08 AM   #4
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I have two speakers over the bed, two in the slide-out over the sofa, and two outside. Each set of two are on different channels. Haven't noticed any difference in volume on c, but will check that out.
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Old 06-10-2014, 08:20 AM   #5
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Concertone® Home Page

This is the Concertone site.

Here is your speaker:

Concertone® C5 Speaker

An amp with speaker level inputs is what you need to really drive the outdoor speakers. Installed between the "C" channel speaker leads and the outside speakers, they will crank the sound up to really disturb your neighbors.

Better get new outside speakers while you are at it.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-x0tAOb4.../oem_amps.html

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_130GMA5...-GM-A5602.html

This amp will make a big difference in sound power to your outside speakers.
You may even need to get more powerful ones for outside.
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Old 06-10-2014, 09:08 AM   #6
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Found this as a possibly better (cheaper) solution:

Boston Acoustics LCAI220 in Wall Local Control Amplifier New in Box | eBay

Still looking.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FUSION-6-inc...item41741ea715

NEAT speakers.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-5-Inch-Dua...553a07&vxp=mtr

These are 80 watt and more in line with the Concertone outputs and a lower power amp.
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OK Folks hang on a minute! :-)

The speakers pictured are actually C3 not C5. The difference is the size so if you get a C5 it will be bigger than the other speakers. It will also sound better, but that is a different story!

I would suggest calling FR for a replacement. Try for a warranty as these break very very rarely. But if not, see what they cost then you can evaluate your other options.

And yes, the cover comes off with a small pry tool revealing the mounting screws.

As far as OUTSIDE (or even inside) speaker and amplifier mods, please consider my new company MTX for any needs you may have. We are a 40 year old company that makes auto, home and commercial sound systems.

We have a nice, small foot print, low current draw amp that could be installed easily in a number of applications. If you care about sound quality you will want to upgrade your speakers as well. We have many automotive, home and marine speakers available and if you are into ATV's/UTV's we are OEM suppliers and have aftermarket products for you as well.

Sorry for the commercial interruption, but if we are giving product recommendations, I would love to be in the mix!

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Old 06-10-2014, 02:15 PM   #8
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i will certainly look at what you have. I am and have been looking at upgraded outside speakers and a way to have boosted audio outside and a slightly lower volume inside.

What do you recommend?

Sorry for the Hijack...

Please PM me Bob.
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I have the exact same speakers in my trailer and worked on them a couple of weeks ago. It's not the grill that comes off but it splits at the small seam you see around the speaker. No matter what tools I tried it ended up making some dented spots on the plastic. Using a small nail file and very fine sandpaper I was able to make those disappear before snapping together again.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:38 PM   #10
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Man that C3 and C5 look a lot alike!
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