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Old 11-27-2009, 11:45 PM   #1
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Wiring problem ???

I have a ZX600 in my 2008 FR Forester. It's 3 months out of warranty.

The unit has AB and C speaker buttons. Watching a DVD with just the A speakers I get sound and a lot of static from my front speakers. With just the B speakers I get clear sound in the four interior speakers AND clear sound in my outside speakers. With just the C speakers on, I get nothing.

I can only conclude that I have wiring problem(s). What do you think ??

What should I do ???
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:18 AM   #2
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Has it been this way since it was new????
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Old 11-28-2009, 09:32 AM   #3
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Shame on me. You know, I am not sure.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:22 AM   #4
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It could be either wiring or bad Concertone unit.
My advice is to pull the concertone out of the cabinet so you
can access the wiring mess that is likely in back.
If it was me, I'd take some masking tape and label all the
wires and then I'd disconnect them.
Then if there was any real doubt which wire went to which speaker,
you can test them. Take a flash light battery and temporarily touch
the wires from one speaker to the battery.
Have a friend listen at various speakers until they hear the
one that makes the popping noise when you scratch the wire
across the battery.
Label that wire as to which speaker it is.
Do this over and over until you have found and labeled every
speaker wire.
Now reconnect them to the concertone and test that.
If you have virtually no change then I'd guess you have a bad
unit.
You might just fix it for no money and only an hours time.
I believe the concertone uses a common "neutral" speaker wire.
(Not a good set up but I think they do this.)
This means you take one wire from each speaker and fasten
them all together. Be sure and use the same color wire from
each speaker when you do this. The other wires will each go to
the correct separate output wire on the concertone unit.
If none of this makes any sense to you then you need an experienced friend or neighbor who knows their way around a
surround sound stereo setup.

Make sure you have good tight proper connections.
None of that just twisting wires and covering with tape!!!

Good luck!
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:08 PM   #5
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In my 831fkbss i believe i might have a model 700 concertone.
In my case it is divided into:
A-livingroom/kitchen speakers
B-bedroom speakers
C-outside speakers

the a,b or c choise just switch the a,b or c on/off

Hope that helped

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Old 03-15-2010, 12:18 PM   #6
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Does Concertome mean: Wiring problems?

I have a ZX600 in my Forester. The RV is brand new. Just picked it up from the dealer. The TV RCA TV works great, the radio and CD music player works great but the DVD player has NO VIDEO. No video fro movies and no video display on the TV screen for the SETUP function.

Also, the instructions for the SETUP function say to put the ZX600 in "DVD Mode". Well how? The FUNCTION button has no DVD mode. If you use the remote control and press "DISC", it says "LOAD" for a few seconds and then jumps back to whatever radio station you were playing.

Does any of this make any sense to anyone out there? HELP!
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:59 PM   #7
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I just pulled that same unit out and thew it away. (see my post for some pictures of what I'm talking about)
There is a wiring diagram in the top of the unit.
The speaker system is connected with a harness just like a car.
The speaker wires that actually goes to the speakers is very heavy duty and then it connects to the wiring harness.
I'm not quite sure why they did it like this.

The harness I'm talking about has 8 sets of wires.
Try unpluging the harness and then plugging it back in.
As one of the others said, it really is a mess of wires.
Be careful what you pull on because some of them may come unplugged from the extensions
Forest River likes to use and it can be a real bugger to get at them.
I had that happen to one set that went to the Aux inputs by the antenna booster. Yikes!
An extra set of hands may be usefull to hold the unit while you fiddle with the wiring.
My unit was up high and hard to hold and mess with at the same time.

If I remember right, the "C" setting is for the outside speakers.
If you don't have them then you get nothing when this is selected.

You might also want to try listening for the static when in different modes.
IF it does it with a DVD but not on the radio then you may have an internal issue not a loose connection.

You have to pop off the face trim to get to the screws that hold the unit in place.
There should be 2 slots on the bottom that a flat blade screw driver will fit into.

Good luck. Hopefully it's just a loose connection.

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I have a ZX600 in my Forester. The RV is brand new. Just picked it up from the dealer. The TV RCA TV works great, the radio and CD music player works great but the DVD player has NO VIDEO. No video fro movies and no video display on the TV screen for the SETUP function.

Also, the instructions for the SETUP function say to put the ZX600 in "DVD Mode". Well how? The FUNCTION button has no DVD mode. If you use the remote control and press "DISC", it says "LOAD" for a few seconds and then jumps back to whatever radio station you were playing.

Does any of this make any sense to anyone out there? HELP!

Try a different DVD. ( you do have one in the unit, right?)
I had one movie that would refuse to load.
Inserting a DVD would put mine in the DVD mode.


Call the dealer and tell them what is happening.
I gaurantee you they have heard all this before.
It takes them about 10 minutes to put a new one in.
I wouldn't be surprised if they have them in stock.

This model is notorius for failing.

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