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Old 07-11-2016, 12:48 PM   #61
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Old 07-11-2016, 01:38 PM   #62
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Yep, screw them. I am following the "rules of the road".

The situation I was describing is when the on ramp has a big triangle that says "YIELD". Most of our on ramps in PA have that. I have yet to see any signs along the highway for traffic already on the highway that says "Move to left lane for merging traffic" or "Slow down for merging traffic".

The absolute worst thing you can do if you're in the right lane at speed is slow down if the highway is busy. That's a good way to get rear ended.
Yield signs on ramps seem counter-intuitive to me. The entire point of the ramp is to gain speed so that you can merge smoothly into traffic. It seems like it would be really dangerous if you have to yield or even worse come to a dead stop at the end of a ramp and then try to merge in and build up to highway speeds. Not to mention holding up all the traffic behind you on the ramp.

Although reading through this thread it seems like the rules vary from state to state.
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Old 07-11-2016, 01:50 PM   #63
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I've told my wife a hundred times, they should make merging onto an Intestate highway part of every driving test. If the applicant can't do it correctly, they fail the test.
Bob...

Back in the day (At least in Cali) it WAS part of the driving test. We had both a street and freeway portion of the test!

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Hi Guys...

Am I the only one that experience zombies that don't look or fail to yield when coming up a ramp to enter the highway??

Then they continue to drive along side the RV until they run out of pavement??
Do they expect me to just stop on the highway for them or just swerve into the passing lane full of traffic?

Happened at least 5 time on the way back from Maine...

I have never seen anything so stupid in my life.
I know this will not apply to a lot of you but I just GOTTA share!

Driving home from picking up our Berk we saw this happen repeatedly!

And lemmie tell you, when you are piloting almost 60' of RV goodness down the highway, those Zombies are a threat to your sanity!

Then, about 200 miles into the drive, I got a bright idea...

I flipped the horn from Auto to AIR...

Next Zombie that tried to cut me off got a 3 sec shot of Freightliner Air Horn Goodness.

He yielded right of way

Memo to self: make sure you tell 6Actual, who was peacefully reading a book, "Zombie" before leaning on the horn
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Everyone on the highway had to merge at some point. I try to be a merge friendly guy but I have no answer for the knucklehead who comes down the ramp at 35 mph and just keeps going till the merge lane ends and then somehow thinks there will magically be a place for him. If I can, I will move over. I even will slow down to avoid an accident but sometimes it gets pretty dicey.
Bottom line..... no one really has the right of way.... it is everyone's duty to avoid a collision. If you tell the responding officer "screw them, I am following the rules of the road", you will likely not get the reply you think you are due.
At the very least, you will end up paying to fix your vehicle and the other driver theirs. Of course that is not so in a no-fault state like Michigan.
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Old 07-11-2016, 02:46 PM   #65
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...next Zombie that tried to cut me off got a 3 sec shot of Freightliner Air Horn Goodness.

He yielded right of way

Memo to self: make sure you tell 6Actual, who was peacefully reading a book, "Zombie" before leaning on the horn
Still contemplating air horns for my truck...
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Yield signs on ramps seem counter-intuitive to me. The entire point of the ramp is to gain speed so that you can merge smoothly into traffic. It seems like it would be really dangerous if you have to yield or even worse come to a dead stop at the end of a ramp and then try to merge in and build up to highway speeds. Not to mention holding up all the traffic behind you on the ramp.

Although reading through this thread it seems like the rules vary from state to state.

That's exactly what you are supposed to do unless they changed it since I took my driving test. If there is too much traffic for you to safely enter the highway without affecting the traffic at speed, you are supposed to come to a complete stop. On the ramp...not the highway. That is called Yielding hence the sign. What if the traffic is bumper to bumper doing 65mph? How do you merge into that? You don't, you stop and wait until it ends.

Now days they have ramps that turn into "merge" lanes. Typically they are much longer and are where the highway has 3 or more lanes. Here in PA a lot of them have both Yield and Merge signs. That means merge if possible but if for some reason you can't merge, yield to the traffic on the highway without affecting it.

In any case the person at speed on the highway has the right of way and legally does not need to do anything but maintain his speed in his current lane. The last thing any of it is designed to do is slow down or alter the flow of the traffic already on the highway such as making people change lanes, that's how pileups happen.
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Everyone on the highway had to merge at some point. I try to be a merge friendly guy but I have no answer for the knucklehead who comes down the ramp at 35 mph and just keeps going till the merge lane ends and then somehow thinks there will magically be a place for him. If I can, I will move over. I even will slow down to avoid an accident but sometimes it gets pretty dicey.
Bottom line..... no one really has the right of way.... it is everyone's duty to avoid a collision. If you tell the responding officer "screw them, I am following the rules of the road", you will likely not get the reply you think you are due.
At the very least, you will end up paying to fix your vehicle and the other driver theirs. Of course that is not so in a no-fault state like Michigan.

I try to be friendly too. Move over a lane if possible. Leave a gap and maybe slow a little to let someone in. I just wish people would learn to accelerate on the ramp. Tough to merge onto a busy freeway going 35mph.
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go to YouTube and google truck locomotive horn gag

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That's exactly what you are supposed to do unless they changed it since I took my driving test. If there is too much traffic for you to safely enter the highway without affecting the traffic at speed, you are supposed to come to a complete stop. On the ramp...not the highway. That is called Yielding hence the sign. What if the traffic is bumper to bumper doing 65mph? How do you merge into that? You don't, you stop and wait until it ends.
It must be because of the differing laws in our home states but I was taught the exact opposite. I've always been told that the worst thing you can do is come to a dead stop on a ramp. The only time I've done that is in Chicago where the traffic is bumper-to-bumper and moving at a snail's pace. At that point you just pick a spot and slowing creep over into the lane. When the traffic is free flowing at 65+ I've never had a problem merging in.

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In any case the person at speed on the highway has the right of way and legally does not need to do anything but maintain his speed in his current lane. The last thing any of it is designed to do is slow down or alter the flow of the traffic already on the highway such as making people change lanes, that's how pileups happen.
As posted before, the laws vary by state. Here in Illinois, it's the responsibility of everyone involved, not just the person merging in. Which seems to me to be the most courteous and common sense solution.

And really when it comes down to it, I don't think anyone wants to be responsible for causing an accident just to prove a point because they aren't legally required to move.
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Bob...

Back in the day (At least in Cali) it WAS part of the driving test. We had both a street and freeway portion of the test!



I know this will not apply to a lot of you but I just GOTTA share!

Driving home from picking up our Berk we saw this happen repeatedly!

And lemmie tell you, when you are piloting almost 60' of RV goodness down the highway, those Zombies are a threat to your sanity!

Then, about 200 miles into the drive, I got a bright idea...

I flipped the horn from Auto to AIR...

Next Zombie that tried to cut me off got a 3 sec shot of Freightliner Air Horn Goodness.

He yielded right of way

Memo to self: make sure you tell 6Actual, who was peacefully reading a book, "Zombie" before leaning on the horn
this is the main reason I swapped out the wimpy Mercedes Benz Sprinter horn for a custom made three horn system.

Murelene and I went to the local salvage yard looking for horns. We took a garden tractor battery equipped with test leads along for testing purposes. Our goal, find the loudest horns we could. Our choices were based on how many people would look to see what was going on when we lit one up so to speak.

I ended up getting a pair of horns from a mid 90's Cutlass Ciera and a high volume low tone horn from a late 90's Cadillac DeVille. I also grabbed the horn relay from the Deville. Although it isn't an air horn, We ended up with a horn system that would make any trucker proud. It is pushing 150 db at 10 feet.
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