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Old 08-20-2013, 08:55 AM   #21
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Hocking Hills- Just a word of caution- PLEASE stay on marked trails!!!
Man Killed, Woman Injured in Separate Falls At Hocking Hills State Park | WBNS-10TV Columbus, Ohio
I know. We're experienced hikers. We love hiking in the Daniel Boone NF
and Red River Gorge National Geological Area.
I once chatted with a trail volunteer in the RRG. He said he had to get off
the emergency response team because he got depressed hauling dead
people out of the gorge.
Mostly young folks, most probably drinking, mostly camping at night.
Guy camps on a cliff. Against the rules right off. Gets up in the night
with a good buzz on- needs to relieve himself. Walks right off the cliff.
Happens regularly.

Stay sober, hike in the daylight! Sleep in a trailer!!
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:38 AM   #22
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How was your trip in the end??
...snip...
Other then that the Pinery is still the Pinery I remember
We had a GREAT trip. We were at Hocking Hills during the week so it
wasn't crowded at all. We had severe thunderstorms all around us one
day and night
No hail or wind damage but it was close! That made the little water falls
in Hocking Hills SP nice and noisy! Place filled right up on Friday. Some
yah,hoos moved in and kept slamming their trailer door way past midnight.
Sound of AC wouldn't even cover it up. Bummer.....
Really enjoyed the hike and discovering this park.

Thanks to Dave_Monica for suggesting FourMile Creek SP NY. Would not
have known about it but for Dave's help! CG was nice but not special. It was mostly grass with just a smidge of gravel in spots. Some mud holes and some puddles but we had a decent site. Place was full on weekend but only 25% on week days. Shower house was very nice but had a tiny, muddy parking lot. We'd give it 3 stars out of 5. It was saved by GREAT
location! Great View over Lake Ontario. We could see Toronto skyline across the lake. Wonderful! Reasonable price- a bargain even.
We had TOTALLY AWESOME day hiking along the Niagara River on the NY
side. Walking along the whirlpool and rapids was great. Got some good video of the FAST water! It's amazing to stand on a rock on the edge
of the river and look out at waves that are higher than you are! That's is a
lot of water in a hurry to go somewhere else!
Recommend a few hours to ride the Erie Canal boat tour in Lockport. I've been thru
locks on the Ohio river and thought it might be boring. Wrong. We both
found it informative and interesting and fun!

We had no issues at all crossing the boarder to from US/Canada.
I did wonder if the US guys are taught to always look stern.
Canadian customs gal was much more friendly.
Had my passports in hand- sun glasses off! got thru in just a couple minutes.
Warning DON'T PULL PAST THE STOP LINE when you are one back from
the booth!! Sheesh. I rolled up a little too close to the car in front of me
and the guy came right out of the booth and yelled BACK UP NOW!!!.
I won't do that again!! CCTV was pointed at his rear bumper and I
accidentally pulled up and blocked it.....

Pinery Provential Park was another great stop. It was 25% occupied during
the week. Streets were bike friendly and they have miles of bike trails.
The beach on southern Lake Ontario is hard packed sand and it goes on
for MILES!! You can walk all day on the beach! Early in the day you might
not see anyone for a mile or more. Afternoons there were some folks
who drive in to use the beach but definitely NOT crowded.
On the weekends it filled up! Got a little noisy but tolerable. Good stop
for us.
I agree that poison ivy must be the state flower in Ontario! It was EVERYWHERE. I had a tough time just plugging in my power cord and
not touching it. I'm highly allergic but managed to not get any!
If you go I recommend eating at SmackWater Jacks tap house on the river in Grand Bend ON. Smackwater Jacks - Eat and drink at the water's edge. We sat on a bar stool outside overlooking
the marina. It was fun watching the boats come and go and the food
and drink were wonderful!

Last stop Holland Michigan state park. We had a decent site not on the
beach but problem was there was a noisy busy street just yards outside
the fence from us. We had total privacy due to trees and brush but
the speed limit went from 30 to 45 right next to our site so every
hot rod and motorcycle was gunning the throttle as they passed us.
We had to sleep with windows closed and AC on Sunday night.
Monday the traffic was gone and we had nice windows open weather
the next 3 nights. Beach is huge and soft sand. Not great for walking
but fine for lounging.
Holland MI is a very nice bicycle friendly town. Don't miss a visit to
tunnel park. It's a good ride from Holland SP to Tunnel park via paved
bicycle path.

All in all a good trip. (We've never had a bad one!!)
I can post video and pictures if you're interested.
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:47 AM   #23
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We had a GREAT trip. ......snip.....
Last stop Holland Michigan state park. We had a decent site not on the
beach but problem was there was a noisy busy street just yards outside
the fence from us. We had total privacy due to trees and brush but
the speed limit went from 30 to 45 right next to our site so every
hot rod and motorcycle was gunning the throttle as they passed us.
We had to sleep with windows closed and AC on Sunday night.
Monday the traffic was gone and we had nice windows open weather
the next 3 nights. Beach is huge and soft sand. Not great for walking
but fine for lounging.
Holland MI is a very nice bicycle friendly town. Don't miss a visit to
tunnel park. It's a good ride from Holland SP to Tunnel park via paved
bicycle path.

All in all a good trip. (We've never had a bad one!!)
I can post video and pictures if you're interested.
Holland was a nice state park, but for all of the reasons you mentioned we will not be going back, I am so glad that I did not reserve a beach campsite, they packed them in there like sardines, also this park is an alcohol free park, they even made both my wife and I sign some paperwork about being alcohol free. Nice park but wont be back!!
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My guess is all Michigan state parks are alcohol free.
We also had to initial the no alcohol rules.
My advice is just be discrete. I used a frozen "blue ice" type mug.
I poured in my brewski and immediately crushed the can. Wife drank wine
out of a plastic glass. No bottles or cans in sight. No problem.
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Glad you enjoyed your trip. Ohio State parks are Alcohol free as well. I plan on just being discreet as well when we go to Hocking Hills next month.

We just got back from Red River Gorge last month. I don't think you even have to be drinking to fall is some of those area. People leting thier little kids run free on top of the natural bridge about drove me crazy! I guess I am getting old...
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Holland State park,Mi. has the largest grove of (Sasafras) trees we have ever seen! Some of them are (4) foot across! The first time we were there (6) college age boys rolled in to the campsite beside us for a (Bachelor Party),in tents,OH Boy! They set up camp then came over and ask us to join them. I ask them what they wanted us to bring over and they said just your drinks. They had (NO) alcohol,drugs,pot,or loud music! They were the perfect boys. I ask them why no beer at a (Bachelor Party)? They replied (The State Park Rules say NO alcohol)! When we steped out the next morning they were gone and cleaned up better than when the arrived. Youroo!!
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Check out this great sunset view from Four Mile Creek NY across lake
Ontario looking at the Toronto skyline ~26 miles away.

I'll try to include a video of the Niagara River as seen from the NY side. Hiking
in the gorge in Whirlpool state park, NY.
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My guess is all Michigan state parks are alcohol free.
We also had to initial the no alcohol rules.
My advice is just be discrete. I used a frozen "blue ice" type mug.
I poured in my brewski and immediately crushed the can. Wife drank wine
out of a plastic glass. No bottles or cans in sight. No problem.
Easier said than done, they actually did a cooler check!! There is only a few of the state parks that have Alcohol restrictions most of them it is ok to have alcohol.
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Easier said than done, they actually did a cooler check!! There is only a few of the state parks that have Alcohol restrictions most of them it is ok to have alcohol.
Was the cooler on the beach or in your trailer??
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Was the cooler on the beach or in your trailer??
At the trailer under the slide, the gestapo busted us again.
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