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05-05-2013, 08:48 PM
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2012 ram 1500 air lift kit?
I'm new to the rv world and I just got a 2013 fs2410 toy hauler. Tongue weight is about 850 and the trailer loaded with what I carry is usually 7500 lbs. but even empty it seems like my truck sags a LOT. Again I'm new to this so I don't know if this is normal. I'm using a husky distribution hitch with sway control. I was thinking about adding the airlift 1000 kit if its needed or would help. Any advice or input is greatly appreciated. The photo is with the trailer empty.
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05-05-2013, 09:06 PM
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I bought the Airlift 1000 with the wireless controller but haven't had a chance to install it yet. I heard good things about this product and am hoping that it helps with the rear end sag as well. BTW no picture is posted in your post
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05-06-2013, 02:46 AM
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Here is my truck. 5.7L crew cab
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05-06-2013, 07:21 AM
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Always Learning
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So- not at all what you're asking about, but how are you with your truck's ratings when you're hooked up? Are you at/over payload capacity? What about your rear axle ratings?
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05-06-2013, 07:27 AM
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Do the fender measurements as outlined in the instruction manual and/or get your rig weighed, both with the trailer with and without the WDH bars in place, and then the truck alone. You probably don't have the WDH adjusted properly. You may have to tilt the head assembly back more.
An air lift kit will not help in weight distributing. That only raises the back end of the truck, and may give you a false sense of security that all is OK because the truck rides level. You need to get some weight off of the rear axle and put that weight onto the front axle to make your truck handle better. Once the WDH is setup properly, you may not need to spend the money on an air lift kit. If the WDH weights check out, and the truck still sags, then maybe a lift kit might level things out a bit......but only as an assist to a properly adjusted WDH.
The tongue weight of a toy hauler without the toys will be heavier that a toy hauler with toys. You may find out that you need x amount of chain lengths between the snap up bracket and spring bars for an empty trailer, and x amount plus 1 for the trailer when you have your toys in there because there is less tongue weight.
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05-06-2013, 07:56 AM
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Camper Less Camping
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Originally Posted by asilva1818
Here is my truck. 5.7L crew cab
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WOW...definetly check your WDH that it's setup correctly & yes, airbags will help get the truck level & get the front end contacting the ground better than what you have now...IMO, don't haul too far with that current setup before you get everything adjusted.
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05-06-2013, 08:06 AM
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This is what I use on my RAM 1500. Just another option to airbags. I'm pleased with the results and I carry more load than you.
Vehicle Suspension Kits - Timbren Suspension Enhancement Systems
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05-06-2013, 08:14 AM
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From the looks of it your using the 8th link. You. Should be around the 5th, your probably not getting any weight transfer to the front of the truck. If its to tight trying the 5th link you may have to angle the head forward a touch.
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05-06-2013, 08:20 AM
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I think with some adjustments to the hitch you get it where you need it to be. From just the pic it looks like there is a lot of adjustment left.
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05-06-2013, 08:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dabmeb
From the looks of it your using the 8th link. You. Should be around the 5th, your probably not getting any weight transfer to the front of the truck. If its to tight trying the 5th link you may have to angle the head forward a touch.
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I agree. I use the 5th link on my yukon, not as much tongue weight as you, but when I ratchet the first bar up you can visibly see the truck level. The first time my wife saw me do it, her reaction was "What manner of black magic sorcery is this!!".
I bought Airlift airbags, but after adjusting my WDH, I took them off and don't use them. They just made the truck bounce more. Firestone RideRite bags I hear are excellent, but I have no experience with them
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05-06-2013, 12:10 PM
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Ok thanks for the info. I'll get to some adjusting! Yes I am using the last link. I had the dealer install and set everything up, they should have helped me out a little better instead of just hooking me up to get me outta there. But I didn't think about the whole loading up taking some weight off the tongue as well.
My tow rating is 8700lbs and 1600 payload.
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05-06-2013, 12:15 PM
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daydreaming about camping
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can you post a picture hooked up where we can see the whole truck, both front and rear axles?
Is that a 2wd truck? And modifications to suspension? While it looks slammed to the suspension stops in that picture, it would help to see how the truck sits, the angle, to tell how bad it is.
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06-24-2013, 09:00 PM
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Junior Member
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I have a 2012 ram 1500 with airbags
And it tows my wildwood 28bhxl fine truck is level 25 to 30 pounds in bags
Nothing but this to say about them
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06-25-2013, 07:29 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by asilva1818
Yes I am using the last link.
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Try using the next to the last link instead and see if that helps.
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2017 F350 Lariat CCSB, SRW, 4x4, 6.7 PS
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06-25-2013, 09:31 AM
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I used the Hellwig pro series helper springs on my 06 Ram 1500, but I think yours has coil springs in the rear. I also put on LT tires, beefier sidewalls, tows MUCH better. When you tighten the chains on your hitch, the rear of the truck should lift up about 3 to 4 inches, due to the weight being shifted to the front axles. Those chains will be really tight! Randy
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06-27-2013, 12:22 PM
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Junior Member
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Try researching 'Total Load Control Suspension' systems. I installed them on my Ram 1500 Sport pulling a 35' TT w WDH and it helped a lot on the extra bounce from the rear end but I do not have that kind of sag in my rig. Please re adjust your WDH that should be your focus...
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