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Old 04-13-2013, 02:59 PM   #1
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2013 292 BHDS Freedom Express Liberty Edition

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Well, we are all settled in with our "new to us" 2013 292 BHDS Freedom Express. Now (still), the towing dilemma... We would love to have a 3/4 ton and I know there would be no issues towing this camper with a 3/4. But, a half ton would be better, day to day. We are considering a 2013 Ram 1500 with 3.92 axle ratio, with towing package. The dry weight of the trailer is 6500. The Ram is rated to just over 10k towing capacity. The payload of the truck leaves a lot to be desired, at about 1500 lbs, if I recall.

I've read and read and read these forums. I know and respect the calculations. So I'm wondering, in real life, those of you that have this trailer.... What are you towing it with and how does it do? Does anyone tow this trailer with a 1/2 ton and are you comfortable with it, or are you all upgrading to a 3/4 ton?

You all have been very helpful along our journey into the camping world. Thanks in advance for all your replies.

Kristy
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Old 04-13-2013, 03:08 PM   #2
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Hello And congrats on the 292.

The dry weight of the camper really means nothing in you're towing calculations and it should never figure in the factor of your tv.
Tongue weight of the camper and payload capacity of the tv would be some of your biggest concerns.
Hitch weight on that trailer is 740 lbs

You need more numbers from both units for us to help you out .

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Old 04-13-2013, 03:38 PM   #3
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On a 4x4 ram box, crew cab, the book shows 1330 payload and 9950. I hope this helps.
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Old 04-13-2013, 03:39 PM   #4
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Just for example that dry weight will climb quite high after it leaves the dealer.
Average added dealer items.
2 propane tanks full of propane 80#
group 24 deep cycle battery 60#
Televisions/television
awning
microwave
spare tire and hanger

you also have to factor in the wdh which can weight 100# or more

average user added items are 1000#
food/beverages
pots/pans/silverware
clothes
bedding
bathroom necessities
chairs
outside table
water heater full of water unless you drain it every trip to and fro 50+ lbs
tools
awning mat
pets
children
tv full of gas
mods to trailer
coolers/ice

It all adds up in a big hurry !

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Old 04-13-2013, 03:52 PM   #5
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this >>>> Forest River Forums - Downloads - Calculator - Travel Trailer Weight Calculator
will help you determine what you seek.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:33 AM   #6
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I own and tow with a 2011 dodge ram 1500 4x4 crew cab with the 5.7 hemi and the 3.92 rear diff ratio. This truck has plenty of power and if you buy a 3/4 dodge ram it has the same motor. The real difference is the braking and suspension. I added a set of rear air bags to mine and make sure you use a good weight distribution hitch. these items are a must in any towing adventure. I am happy with the truck and we just take our time and respect the limitations. You must also factor in how much towing you do during the year. 5 to 8 camping trips a year? does that justify buying the bigger truck for minimal use. I hope this helps you out.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:46 AM   #7
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It sounds like you're already aware of this you'd rather have real-world responses, but I'll post it anyway. I'm a fan of sticking to the published figures for a truck (been called the "weight police"). Figuring out your actual towing capacity isn't terribly hard:
What can I tow?

Then you have to decide if you're going to stick within those numbers or go over. And, if you do knowingly go over- which numbers really matter to you? (Many choose to stick specifically to rear axle and tire weight capacities as the ones to not exceed.)
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:13 PM   #8
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Dry weight of the trailer is 5492 as seen:
Freedom Express - Coachmen RV

GVRW is 7600lbs.

I have a 2012 and pull it with my Armada. I have almost 1800lbs of payload in the Armada though. It pulls the trailer well in my opinion. I do not win any races in the mountains, but I am fine on the road. Get a good WDH hitch like the Equalizer or Reese dual cam and have fun. Make sure you check your weights with the proper setup and style truck. As long as you stay within your payload, you will be fine.
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Old 07-08-2013, 10:36 AM   #9
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I just bought a '14 Sunset Trail 290QB, sticker dry weight 5885 lbs, 32.7ft long, dry tongue weight 640 lbs. Loaded up weight is more like 7000 lbs, and probably 800+ lb tongue wt. Towed it 250 miles round trip on my maiden voyage and my '12 Titan Crew did great. I had plenty of power and minimal sway with my Equalizer 1200/12k. Would I tow more TT, nope this is my limit. Would I be happier with a 3/4 ton truck, of course but it's not a possibility right now and don't think it's truly necessary. Happy camping.
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we sold our 2011 296REDS freedom express last year and I towed all over the mountains, the extra weight of the truck and power made it enjoyable execpt in the really tight up and down curves. personally I would never own another 1/2 ton unless I gave up camping and or towing trailers.. my last gasser (6.0) did ok but I did not like seeing 5000 rpm on any hills
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