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Old 03-17-2015, 04:22 PM   #21
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I think I have narrowed my new TV down to a 2014 Eco. I know a lot has been written about these trucks and the numbers look good. A couple questions I have:
What's the difference between Max Tow and without Max Tow. From the numbers I've seen, it looks like about 1000 Lbs and a different radiator.
What's the difference with Max Payload? I think I've seen 3 different options for payload numbers. What does Max Payload get you and can it be achieved with after market parts.

I'm looking at either new or slightly used 4x4, would prefer super cab with 6.5 foot bed (would settle for crew cab with 5.5 bed). Would like a XLT model, but would settle for FX4 or King Ranch. The 2014 with Eco Boost are getting a little harder to find, that's why I ask what is acceptable.

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I have a 2013 super crew with the Max tow package. It's a dream to tow with compared to my previous 2010 5.4 V8 with the regular tow package. The other truck would downshift 2 to 3 gears on a small incline, this one doesn't even downshift unless it gets pretty steep and then it's usually one gear. The Max tow can come with 3:73 gears like I have or 4:10's. You also get an extra leaf in the rear springs along with a bigger cooling package and I heard from a Ford engineer that the transmission is built tougher and the shift points are also changed to accommodate the heavier towing you will be pulling. My trailer weighs loaded with everything including water at about 8,000 lbs. I say opt for more rather than need it and not have it.
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Old 03-17-2015, 04:26 PM   #22
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I have a 2013 super crew with the Max tow package. It's a dream to tow with compared to my previous 2010 5.4 V8 with the regular tow package. The other truck would downshift 2 to 3 gears on a small incline, this one doesn't even downshift unless it gets pretty steep and then it's usually one gear. The Max tow can come with 3:73 gears like I have or 4:10's. You also get an extra leaf in the rear springs along with a bigger cooling package and I heard from a Ford engineer that the transmission is built tougher and the shift points are also changed to accommodate the heavier towing you will be pulling. My trailer weighs loaded with everything including water at about 8,000 lbs. I say opt for more rather than need it and not have it.
All you have to do is look to the doc I provided to clear up some of the misconceptions you have. No extra leaf. Same tranny. The major difference you are experiencing is the transition from an NA V8 to the Ecoboost. No comparison in towing performance.
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Old 03-17-2015, 04:32 PM   #23
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All you have to do is look to the doc I provided to clear up some of the misconceptions you have. No extra leaf. Same tranny. The major difference you are experiencing is the transition from an NA V8 to the Ecoboost. No comparison in towing performance.

Ford never advertised the extent of all the extra's that you get with the max tow over the standard package. Now this was from the lips of an engineer that works for Ford truck division. Maybe he doesn't know chit. But I do have an extra leaf on each side versus my 2010 with the standard tow package because I counted old versus new before I sold the previous one.
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Old 03-17-2015, 04:40 PM   #24
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Ford never advertised the extent of all the extra's that you get with the max tow over the standard package. Now this was from the lips of an engineer that works for Ford truck division. Maybe he doesn't know chit. But I do have an extra leaf on each side versus my 2010 with the standard tow package because I counted old versus new before I sold the previous one.
My truck with the standard tow package with the 20" wheel option has the EXACT same springs and spring code as the MaxTow. I've confirmed from the build sticker- and this is confirmed in the doc I posted. Sounds like the engineer you spoke to was ill informed as well. I can guarantee you that for the cost of the MaxTow option in 2013 and the quantity they were selling, Ford did NOT tool up to produce a different transmission, either. If you still haven't looked at the doc I posted, you really should. It takes a little studying, but you'll find that, at least for the 2013 MY, the MaxTow package included very little over the standard tow Ecoboost- and nothing it includes justifies the increase in GVWR. No structural differences in the trucks, I mean.
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Old 03-17-2015, 04:55 PM   #25
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Where it gets confusing is that many of the things you listed in the MaxTow are included with all Ecoboost trucks. My 2013 NON MaxTow included the class IV hitch, 7 pin, same aux. trans cooler, trailer brake controller (only available in certain packages, mine is 302A XLT), Select Shift trans, etc. You need to read the tech document I attached earlier and forget what is in the brochure. I'll also add that the 9.75" gear is on all Ecoboost trucks. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty confident the only thing using the 8.8" was the base model 3.7L trucks.
The only difference between your 302A package and Max Tow is MT also includes upgraded rear bumper and the trailer towing mirrors. This is from my 2013 Ford brochure. MT option on my Lariat was $460. HD Payload pkg was $1695.
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I happened to be at my local Ford dealer looking to trade my 2005 F150, in short he said plan a-head. They were getting an Eco Boost in a couple of days, did I want to "test" drive? I did and waited awhile to make a decision.
I bought a 2011 XLT Super Cab EB 4WD, 3.73, 8,200 Package, Heavy Duty Payload - 2,393, Trailer Tow - 11,200, brake control, pwr/heat/tel/fold mirrors and LT E rated tires.
Bought a 30 TT, pulled like a dream (Equalizer Hitch).
Decided to get a FWT, Heavy Duty Payload set this truck ahead. Pin weight can be as much as some pickups total cab/bed allowed weight. My pin is 1,750, I still over 600 for cab and bed.
It's a torqueie critter, wish I owned a tire shop.
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I'll also add that the 9.75" gear is on all Ecoboost trucks. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty confident the only thing using the 8.8" was the base model 3.7L trucks.
According to your document all F150 4x2's have the 8.8 differential. Just FYI Not trying to be confrontational .
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I picked up a '14 EB FX4 SCREW with 3.73 rear end back in November to better tow our 16' popup. With so much more capability, we just bought a new Grey Wolf 26DBH. I haven't pulled it yet and won't get to for a couple more weeks when we take delivery but I can say this thing is a beast at high altitude here in the mountains and I have no doubt it will be more than capable of towing our new camper. This video by Fast Lane Truck on Youtube is what sold me on the EB. https://youtu.be/QR-gMWRzvOg
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According to your document all F150 4x2's have the 8.8 differential. Just FYI Not trying to be confrontational .
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This video by Fast Lane Truck on Youtube is what sold me on the EB. https://youtu.be/QR-gMWRzvOg
Google Eco-Boost Torture Test with Mike Rowe. That's what made me a believer.
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I called Ford directly before I ordered my 2012 Max Tow. In addition to what has been mentioned, they also told me that suspension bushings in the front suspension are upgraded as a part of that package.
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