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Old 07-03-2015, 08:04 PM   #121
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I thought the Ford Ego boost was supposed to get this incredible mileage. It doesn't seem much better than most V8's. I just don't see the longevity of a V6 working that hard I also see big bucks when a turbo fails. I have read about them failing prematurely. On the other hand it is probably the same as having a diesel turbo fail.
Ford's marketing machine spun it that way...

My dealer (who's also a friend...) steered me away from the Eco and into a 5.0 for my last truck (2013 F150).

Real world mileage isn't much different at all...

I'm getting 11mpg towing a Grey Wolf 28BH, and 16.5 mpg when not towing.
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Old 07-03-2015, 08:23 PM   #122
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I thought there was a class action lawsuit against Ford for bad turbos?
Someone's rumor mill or source document?


Edit: You might be mistaking the 11-12 issues with the CAC on the Ecoboost's. NHSTA found Ford's reprogramming and TSB fixed that issue.
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Old 07-03-2015, 08:25 PM   #123
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Ford's marketing machine spun it that way...

My dealer (who's also a friend...) steered me away from the Eco and into a 5.0 for my last truck (2013 F150).

Real world mileage isn't much different at all...

I'm getting 11mpg towing a Grey Wolf 28BH, and 16.5 mpg when not towing.
While I do believe the eco will get better MPG than a "5.slow" IF driven the way that would be needed, it won't be me driving that way.
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Old 07-04-2015, 06:51 AM   #124
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I thought the Ford Ego boost was supposed to get this incredible mileage. It doesn't seem much better than most V8's. I just don't see the longevity of a V6 working that hard I also see big bucks when a turbo fails. I have read about them failing prematurely. On the other hand it is probably the same as having a diesel turbo fail.

The ecoboost doesn't work half as hard has the previous 5.4 triton V8 did pulling a trailer. I had a 2010 5.4 and now have a 2013 Ecoboost with roughly the same equipment pulling the same trailer. The Eco doesn't hunt gears looking for it's torque peak like the V8 did because it has a flat torque curve from 1500 rpm to 5,000 rpm. It's almost effortless. I know non-Ford lovers like to pick on it but the motor has been tested in BAJA races before it was put on the market along with the normal testing. They tore down these engines after 150,000 miles showing minimal if any wear at all. I'd say that pretty much shows they are tough as nails. They may have turbo problems from time to time but look at how many turbo powered vehicles are out there today. The track record is pretty darn good. Having driven GM, RAM pickups that my friends own I'll put my money on the Ford, they sell more pickups than anyone else for a reason.
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Old 07-04-2015, 09:17 AM   #125
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I am not really brand loyal, but when I was looking to buy (off the lot not order one) all I could find were Platinum edition F150s in the $50K range. I bought an SLT Ram with the 6.7L I6; 800 lb/ft of torque at 1600 RPM for $35K tax, tag, and all... far less than any EB I could lay my hands on... this was late 2012. If the EB was equal or less $$$ I would be driving one now. Now the prices have skyrocketed... its crazy.
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Old 07-04-2015, 06:33 PM   #126
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If you got a diesel Ram SLT for 35 grand you did really good. I can't find one in Michigan for under 45 and up.
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Old 07-04-2015, 08:46 PM   #127
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If you got a diesel Ram SLT for 35 grand you did really good. I can't find one in Michigan for under 45 and up.
MSRP was a little over $40K. It doesn't have all the 'stuff', but all I need. I said, SLT, its an SL. For me it was all about the diesel, 4:10 limited slip, auto and airconditioning. I could care less about Nav and all that, it does have IConnect, which is nice. It was a left over 2012 bought April 2013.
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Old 07-05-2015, 08:41 PM   #128
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2011 4x4 crew cab Eco boost with an AFE air intake and a 4 inch exhaust from the converters back have been averaging 14.5 pulling a 7.000 lb vibe highway 12.5-13.3 mountains


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Old 07-06-2015, 07:05 AM   #129
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No I never wonder about diesels, because at this point I have no purpose for one and don't want the added hassles.[/QUOTE]


What hassles? Just curious why gas and not D?


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Old 07-06-2015, 07:42 AM   #130
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Platinum edition F150s in the $50K range. I bought a Ram [Tradesman] with the 6.7L I6; 800 lb/ft of torque at 1600 RPM for $35K...
Last Fall I compared F150 EB HD's to Ram 2500's and felt the same way... I would rather have a Ram 2500 Tradesman w/6.7 diesel than a F150 EB HD w/leather, nav, sat, etc... IMO the Nav & Sat radio become either pricey or obsolete in a couple years whereas my $100 Garmin & $25/mo. unlimited Smartphone plan (Republic Wireless) provide everything I need.

In the end I stuck with my nearly paid-off 2011 Ram w/5.7 Hemi that Ram replaced under their 100K powertrain warranty. The replacement engine has a 3 year warranty so I'm good-to-go for a while... My combined TV & TT payments are under $400/month... A new truck alone would be more than that w/out some serious cash down. I'm paying extra on both now & as soon as the TV is paid-off I can pay-off my TT quickly. IMO I would rather have used gear that is paid-off vs. new & lengthy payments... Low/no payments means more days campin'... Just sayin'...
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:40 AM   #131
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I realize this is a 2014 thread, but... My last trip if it helps the conversation. midgrade fuel, camper in sig.
Just got back from 3441km (2138 mi) trip to Banff from Winnipeg. Worst days with cross winds I got 37L/100km (6.36 mpg US), and best day was 27L/100km (8.71 mpg US) (tailwind and on hilly terrain). Avg for trip (with only a couple hundred km without TT) was 28L/100km (8.4 mpg US). Only used regular unleaded, and most of the drive in cruise. Only used Tow Haul in Alberta with the rolling hills and mountains. Definitley helped on the downhills. Based on what others are showing, I feel I should get better mileage. I am underweight, according to scales (though first day I was heavy on the TV drive axle). Would midgrade improve my mileage??
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Curios, how fast were you driving? I find above 62-63 mph milage drops fast. Also, did you lock out 6th gear?
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Curios, how fast were you driving? I find above 62-63 mph milage drops fast. Also, did you lock out 6th gear?
I have found no difference locking out 6th gear other than more engine noise. I just let the tranny do it's thing.
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Old 07-10-2015, 10:55 AM   #134
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I have found no difference locking out 6th gear other than more engine noise. I just let the tranny do it's thing.
Just my own experience, the Ecoboost is really happy at about 2,000 rpm. My mpg went up about 1 mpg when locking out 6 th and driving at 62 mph.
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Just my own experience, the Ecoboost is really happy at about 2,000 rpm. My mpg went up about 1 mpg when locking out 6 th and driving at 62 mph.

I don't know what gear you are running but I have the 3:73 and the Max tow package. I seem to get the same whether I run 6th or 5th. I never run faster than 62 MPH towing the TT. Now without the TT it's a little different story.
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Curios, how fast were you driving? I find above 62-63 mph milage drops fast. Also, did you lock out 6th gear?
Averaging 62-64mph (ok, on last leg home with tailwind I was doing 65mph). Didn't know I could lock out 6th gear (or how). Wouldn't 6th gear help mileage as it knocks the rpm to about 1800? Maybe I am missing something? Also, I have a max tow package with 3.73 gear.
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I don't think the gearing matters, if you drive less than 65 you will see the best performance, I personally love the power to torque ration on the F-50 and since I am not pulling anything over 11,200 I am ok with the EB. If you drive harder you will see MPG decrease


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My 2011 Ecoboost seemed to really like towing at about 2,000 rpm. I always used tow/haul and locked out 6 gear. Rarely downshifts and is at the right torque for pulling. That's my experience anyway after pulling my 7,500 pound toy hauler over 18,000 miles. I will try towing with my new F150 Ecoboost this weekend as we head out west.

To lock out any gear, move the up/down switch on the shifter. I hope this helps.
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Towed our 9K+ TT home yesterday. Had some tailwind on first 1/3 of the trip- 10mph or so. Terrain was hilly with almost constant 1-3 degree ups and downs. Last 2/3 of trip was with side winds that increased over the duration of the trip. Cruise was set at 65 when on the highway, but there were several towns with some lights I had to stop for. Didn't baby it to inflate the numbers- just drove like I always do. Actual drive time for the trip was only ~ 3 hours, so this includes around 2 hours of idle time and hitching/unhitching. Click image for larger version

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Seems about right for the weight of your TT plus weather. I had bad winds going from NJ to VA in April pulling 7,00# TT got 9.5 at best


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