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Old 10-02-2015, 12:15 PM   #101
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It's dot law.

If I am directed into a weigh station, and am over my gvwr. It's a ticket.
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Can you find and post up the "DOT law" for me? I just have NEVER seen a "law" stating that it is illegal to exceed your GVWR. And there are two different scenarios going on here. If you get in a wreck and kill someone, sure, I can see them throwing the book at you for negligence. But would that driver get an overweight ticket? Would the fine vary from the amount overweight? How much is overweight? Most DOT scales aren't exactly accurate. They are weighing trucks in the thousands of pounds over, not hundreds.


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Old 10-02-2015, 03:04 PM   #102
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I think the Diesel Vs Gas debat will always be up for debat. The eco boost is a beast for a 1/2 ton truck. If they are towing a 5ER with that rig is must be a hell of a towing rig. But it is MAXED out towing rig. Then you drive at high speeds maxed out that's when thing happens in a hurry. I think the daily driver is the reason you see so many 1/2 tons towing these large trailers. It's a choice between better towing safty or a better daily driver. I'm not sure the new trucks the daily driver is that much differt. I do think the are all are over priced. It's a choice !!
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Old 10-02-2015, 04:44 PM   #103
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Can you find and post up the "DOT law" for me? I just have NEVER seen a "law" stating that it is illegal to exceed your GVWR. And there are two different scenarios going on here. If you get in a wreck and kill someone, sure, I can see them throwing the book at you for negligence. But would that driver get an overweight ticket? Would the fine vary from the amount overweight? How much is overweight? Most DOT scales aren't exactly accurate. They are weighing trucks in the thousands of pounds over, not hundreds.


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http://www.dot.state.pa.us/Public/DV...rms/MV-70S.pdf
All I can find is weight class- most fines are local police pulling over 1/2 ton to 1 ton to generate $$$.
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Old 10-02-2015, 07:36 PM   #104
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http://www.dot.state.pa.us/Public/DV...rms/MV-70S.pdf
All I can find is weight class- most fines are local police pulling over 1/2 ton to 1 ton to generate $$$.

Am I missing something? The link sent me to a form showing what it costs to register your pickup. Still no law. I guess I'll keep waiting......


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Old 10-02-2015, 07:44 PM   #105
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Part III number 8 at the bottom of the page under FAQ.


8. Overloaded Recreational Vehicle (RV).
The FMVSS have requirements for the manufacturer to use proper tires and rims for the gross axle weight rating (GAWR) and the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR). The manufacturer may determine the GVWR by adding cargo capacity (if any) to the curb weight of the vehicle as manufactured. The wise consumer, before purchase, will determine if the vehicle has sufficient cargo capacity to carry the weight of water, additional equipment (such as televisions, and microwave ovens), and luggage. The manufacturer’s certification label must show the GVWR. The GVWR must not be exceeded by overloading the vehicle. There is little the government can do to assist a consumer who has purchased a vehicle that has insufficient cargo capacity for its intended use.

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Old 10-02-2015, 07:58 PM   #106
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Part III number 8 at the bottom of the page under FAQ.


8. Overloaded Recreational Vehicle (RV).
The FMVSS have requirements for the manufacturer to use proper tires and rims for the gross axle weight rating (GAWR) and the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR). The manufacturer may determine the GVWR by adding cargo capacity (if any) to the curb weight of the vehicle as manufactured. The wise consumer, before purchase, will determine if the vehicle has sufficient cargo capacity to carry the weight of water, additional equipment (such as televisions, and microwave ovens), and luggage. The manufacturer’s certification label must show the GVWR. The GVWR must not be exceeded by overloading the vehicle. There is little the government can do to assist a consumer who has purchased a vehicle that has insufficient cargo capacity for its intended use.

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Once again, that is a requirement that is set in place for the manufacturer. I do not see where it states that it is against the law for me to overload my vehicle.


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Once again, that is a requirement that is set in place for the manufacturer. I do not see where it states that it is against the law for me to overload my vehicle.


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What is the consumer if not you? This is the FAQ section not the complete law.

The wise consumer, before purchase, will determine if the vehicle has sufficient cargo capacity to carry the weight of water, additional equipment (such as televisions, and microwave ovens), and luggage. The manufacturer’s certification label must show the GVWR. The GVWR must not be exceeded by overloading the vehicle.

You want to read the entire reg be my guest since page on up pages on the subject. I ended up at the library to read it.
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Old 10-02-2015, 08:12 PM   #108
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Am I missing something? The link sent me to a form showing what it costs to register your pickup. Still no law. I guess I'll keep waiting......


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Nope, I cannot find anything but 26,0001 or higher
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Old 10-02-2015, 08:22 PM   #109
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Part III number 8 at the bottom of the page under FAQ.


8. Overloaded Recreational Vehicle (RV).
The FMVSS have requirements for the manufacturer to use proper tires and rims for the gross axle weight rating (GAWR) and the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR). The manufacturer may determine the GVWR by adding cargo capacity (if any) to the curb weight of the vehicle as manufactured. The wise consumer, before purchase, will determine if the vehicle has sufficient cargo capacity to carry the weight of water, additional equipment (such as televisions, and microwave ovens), and luggage. The manufacturer’s certification label must show the GVWR. The GVWR must not be exceeded by overloading the vehicle. There is little the government can do to assist a consumer who has purchased a vehicle that has insufficient cargo capacity for its intended use.

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Nice post! Good to know the government can not help someone that puts together a unsafe combination.

no such rules in Canada I have ever found other than max 23,500 combined TV and 5th wheel weight. You can get a Dodge that tows 31,000 lbs, but you can not tow anything without a CDL and commercial plates and annual inspections.
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Old 10-02-2015, 08:27 PM   #110
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What is the consumer if not you? This is the FAQ section not the complete law.

The wise consumer, before purchase, will determine if the vehicle has sufficient cargo capacity to carry the weight of water, additional equipment (such as televisions, and microwave ovens), and luggage. The manufacturer’s certification label must show the GVWR. The GVWR must not be exceeded by overloading the vehicle.

You want to read the entire reg be my guest since page on up pages on the subject. I ended up at the library to read it.

Oh, I'm sorry, i didn't (and still don't) see where it states that it is against the law for the consumer to exceed GVWR. It just said that must not be exceeded. Or what? If I exceed it, what happens? All violations have a code used. Something like a CFR or ORS #. What is the actual law? What is the penalty? If there is a law, there has to be something out there stating the exact law. Not some sentence at the end of a paragraph.


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