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Old 10-02-2015, 10:30 PM   #121
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Hmm, "in my state" but is afraid to put that in any of his threads or signature. Must be state of mind. Guess what? in Europe you can't go over what the manufacturer lists as "DGVW -Design Gross Vehicle Weight".

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Old 10-02-2015, 10:32 PM   #122
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I never heard him say you can tow anything you want and nobody can do anything about it, you want to go towards unrealistic scenarios now just to talk it seems like, this has gotten too heated for no reason. Just sayin


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I went ahead and called the Woodburn Oregon Port of Entry. He said there is NO law stating that it is illegal to exceed GVWR. He said that the GVWR is a safety rating that the manufacturer has set up and has NOTHING to do with the laws of the road. He also told me that if I was running commercial they still wouldn't even care about those numbers. They have there own weight limits for pickups running commercial.


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Disagree - He said that "NO law stating that it is illegal to exceed GVWR"

My example of a Colorado 5er 28,000 lbs with 6000 lbs pin weight would fine or do read that wrong. If that extreme example at what weight would be illegal or over weight or what ever. That says to me that there is no limits. Do we use common sense in towing - that could produce any weight the TV could move and that depending of the person.
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Old 10-02-2015, 10:40 PM   #123
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This is the agency that states you can not run over weight.. NHTSA and Office of Vehicle Safety. Also in the FAQ i linked to. I'm not going to library of congress and look it for you.

Just showing how silly your statement is that you can tow anything you want and any weight you want on public streets.

I can't believe that you believe the above example is legal....

In my state you have to operate a motor vehicle with manufacture specs. You can't put 10 seat belts in Corvette and put 10 people and head the street when the manufacture specs says two passengers. I don't know about where you live. That is my 14 year grandson drivers manual.

NHTSA doesn't make laws for the road. They make sure your equipment is as safe as it can be when it leaves the manufacturer.

Example: NHTSA has rules stating how a child restraint seat should be built. NHTSA does not have a law stating that you have to use it.

Your links mean nothing. What state do you live in? I will give them a call on Monday. I am serious too, I will. I want to know if I'm wrong. Hell, at this point I want to be proven wrong, just to end this confusion. But nobody has provided me with the proof........yet.

I'll give you an example of how "silly" my statement is. I have a meth head uncle that scraps metal to pay for his habit. About 10 years ago he had an old combine given to him to scrap out. He decided it would take too long to cut it up, so he took the wheels off of it and chained some old mobile home axles to the bottom of it. Then he built a tow bar to attach it to his Nissan pickup. He towed it 30 miles to the steel yard to be scrapped. On the way, the news and police were called. I saw him on the news from the chopper. They were reporting the backup he was causing. The police pulled him over. He got a ticket for not properly securing his load and for impeding traffic. The officer said NOTHING about being overweight.


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Old 10-03-2015, 05:07 PM   #124
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Hmm, "in my state" but is afraid to put that in any of his threads or signature. Must be state of mind. Guess what? in Europe you can't go over what the manufacturer lists as "DGVW -Design Gross Vehicle Weight".



Mods, time to close this broken thread down.

Why do we have to shut down every thread that involves a civil debate???????????? You guys would be VERY uncomfortable around my campfire as we enjoy a spirited, logical and courteous debate. Debate is a wonderful thing IMHO. If we can't defend our views and opinions maybe we should reconsider them.
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Old 10-04-2015, 05:59 PM   #125
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2015 F150 Platinum Ecoboost- great tow vehicle!

I'm towing a 5'er at about 8500 lbs loaded. The 2013 F150 Platinum Ecobeast truck with towing package has 29000 miles on it, of which 5500 has been hooked to the camper.

At 55-60 mph, I get an easy 10 mpg pulling in the mountains, just made a 1055 mile trip to Shenandoah National Park two weeks ago. Around town 17 mpg, and 21 empty on long trips. Pulling at interstate speeds loaded, it will drop to 8.5-9.5 mpg.

I have a towing tune installed (just to mess with the V8 guys &#128521 which punches it out to 415 HP and 435 lb ft torque.

I bought it with 6000 miles on it for $40,500 a year and a half ago. It is great for how I use it. Like the OP, no way to justify the bigger, beefier trucks for that kind of use, even with me pulling probably a little more of the time than the average non-retired camper. We tend to make longer runs to our preferred campgrounds.


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Old 10-19-2015, 07:50 PM   #126
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love the picture. What color is your Pick up? Sure does look good, I was looking at upgrading and wondered. Thanks
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Can I ask what your towing with? I've got a 2010 f150 4x4 short bed with tow package. looking at a 2014 flagstaff 8528ikws. It's got 5.4 triton 3.55. I think it'll pull it fine. Just working on the hitch set up.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:41 PM   #128
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love the picture. What color is your Pick up? Sure does look good, I was looking at upgrading and wondered. Thanks
Truck is a 2013 F-150 Screw 6.5' bed Sterling Gray, Ecoboost "BOOSTIE". Max tow pkg. 3.73 gears. Roadmaster Active Suspension (RAS). Lt E rated tires.
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Can I ask what your towing with? I've got a 2010 f150 4x4 short bed with tow package. looking at a 2014 flagstaff 8528ikws. It's got 5.4 triton 3.55. I think it'll pull it fine. Just working on the hitch set up.
Not sure what the payload for your truck is. 8528IKWS has a pin weight of 1300+ pounds. 8300 dry weight. Check your trucks ratings.
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Can I ask what your towing with? I've got a 2010 f150 4x4 short bed with tow package. looking at a 2014 flagstaff 8528ikws. It's got 5.4 triton 3.55. I think it'll pull it fine. Just working on the hitch set up.
you'll be maxed out with towing capacity with an empty trailer. Same with payload. You would be over with empty trailer and nobody in truck.
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