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Old 09-14-2015, 09:15 PM   #41
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Here's why I didn't want a HD pickup: (from Edmunds.com road test of 2015 Silverado HD 2500 Duramax)

"Expansion joints, freeway seams and potholes all make themselves known when you're piloting the HD Silverado. Ride comfort is certainly lacking relative to its half-ton brother, but that's the penalty for being able to haul a Miata in the bed and tow a tow truck ó simultaneously. Performing such a feat, however, would no doubt improve ride quality.

And though its powertrain and interior noise levels are thoroughly modern, there's still some Conestoga wagon control feel lurking underneath the new skin. The big Chevy's steering lacks the rest of the truck's refinement. Regardless of speed, there's precious little directional stability thanks to a lack of self-centering torque and on-center feel. Worse, at parking speeds, the feel is syrupy and effort is friction-filled.

Massive rearview mirrors, though a necessary component of a dedicated tow vehicle, limit front-quarter visibility enough to hide small vehicles in some scenarios."

If I were towing a large proportion of the time, it would be worth the compromises. Since I'm not, purchasing a HD pickup would put me in the jackass category 99% of the time, where I feel I would not be comfortable. *BTW, their test truck came in stickered at over $66k, 4k more than the F150 Platinum, and I'm pretty sure it won't give you a massage like the Platinum. Massage is good. Just saying.
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Old 09-14-2015, 09:58 PM   #42
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You can find reviews on the internet to match about any view point..here is one.

Without much explanation for why it's taken so long, Consumer Reports has officially offered its opinion on the all-new 2015 Ford F-150 pickup truck, and it's not good. In fact, Consumer Reports said that a new truck buyer would be better off purchasing either the new, better-handling 2015 Chevrolet Silverado 1500/GMC Sierra 1500 or 2015 Ram 1500.
CR prefers the ride quality of the Ram 1500's rear coil springs as well as the fuel-economy benefits of the 3.0-liter EcoDiesel when compared to the harsh-riding and thirsty F-150.
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coil springs do give a better ride. Virtually worthless for towing/payload capacity
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Old 09-14-2015, 10:41 PM   #44
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You can find reviews on the internet to match about any view point..here is one.

Without much explanation for why it's taken so long, Consumer Reports has officially offered its opinion on the all-new 2015 Ford F-150 pickup truck, and it's not good. In fact, Consumer Reports said that a new truck buyer would be better off purchasing either the new, better-handling 2015 Chevrolet Silverado 1500/GMC Sierra 1500 or 2015 Ram 1500.
CR prefers the ride quality of the Ram 1500's rear coil springs as well as the fuel-economy benefits of the 3.0-liter EcoDiesel when compared to the harsh-riding and thirsty F-150.
I read the same article in CR the only problem with their analogy is the anemic 5.3 sucks at towing anything bigger than a popup. The eco will tow the chevy and whatever it's towing. The Dodge 3.0 EcoDiesel is fine but still won't tow my trailer that my F150 tows with the ecoboost with no sweat at all. To get the towing capacity in the chevy you have to step up to the 6.2 V8 that takes premium fuel all the time, to tow what I tow with a Ram you have to step up to a 2500 because the 1500 with the Hemi (mid-range gas all the time and premium when towing) tows more than the Diesel but less than the 5.3 chevy. For what my needs are, I don't need an $8,000 dollar diesel or a V6 Diesel. Why Ram didn't go with the cummins 5.0 V8 diesel like Nissan is doing is beyond me because they use cummins in the big trucks. Besides that Ecodiesel has had it's problems.
I have a feeling Nissan may have hit a home run with that cummins 5.0.
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:35 AM   #45
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Without much explanation for why it's taken so long, Consumer Reports has officially ........
They were waiting to see if Ford would give the staff some of the new F150's to "demo"- as in drive for a few years for free. Apparently not.
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Old 09-15-2015, 02:01 PM   #46
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I recently bought a 2013 F150 with the 6.2L v8 and 3.73 (it's not about mileage right?). I'm looking to tow a 30ft Catalina weighing in at about 7700 lbs loaded.

I'm using a husky centerline wd hitch and will tow the tt home tonight. Am I going to be blown all over the road or will this tv be heavy enough to keep steady? The numbers say I'm within limits but I'm good at borrowing trouble and worrying!

Thx for any input!


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My family just purchased a 2016 Salem Hemisphere 300BH. I towed it 700 miles round trip over weekend from WV to NC. The Ecoboost is really impressive. I set the adaptive cruise to 71 on I-81 and had no issues. There was a 4% grade on a 2-lane involved on the way back which I pulled at 55 mph in 3rd gear with plenty of pedal left. My prior set-up was a 27-foot 4000 lb (dry) trailer with no slides and 2011 F150 5.0 V8. The Ecoboost is much more relaxed even with 10 foot longer trailer weighing twice as much (8380 lbs dry). Always lower RPM. We had a bed full of luggage and tools, 4 passengers weighing a total of about 450 lbs. I got 8.3 mpg on the trip (old set-up would get 9). I had to slam on the brakes once on I-81 coming up on stopped traffic, no problem. Super happy with truck and new camper . Hope this helps someone.

Another 6 inches from that gas pump and you wouldn't have got any gas in that truck.
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Old 09-15-2015, 04:40 PM   #48
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You can find reviews on the internet to match about any view point..here is one.

Without much explanation for why it's taken so long, Consumer Reports has officially offered its opinion on the all-new 2015 Ford F-150 pickup truck, and it's not good. In fact, Consumer Reports said that a new truck buyer would be better off purchasing either the new, better-handling 2015 Chevrolet Silverado 1500/GMC Sierra 1500 or 2015 Ram 1500.
CR prefers the ride quality of the Ram 1500's rear coil springs as well as the fuel-economy benefits of the 3.0-liter EcoDiesel when compared to the harsh-riding and thirsty F-150.
The point was that a "half ton" pickup is much easier to deal with on a daily basis when you are not towing than a HD. I'm pretty sure all HDs ride more harshly and handle less well than their "half ton brethren". That article just happened to be about a Chevy (as luck would have it.)
I readily acknowledge that WITHIN half tons or HDs that all the trucks are really almost equal and it boils down to personal preference and opinion. MY opinion is there is no better truck on this planet than the F150 Ecoboost 3.5 (yes I'm biased, but so is everyone else, including CR on some level).
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My ecoboost was $35000 new. Less with rebates. I bought it used (5000 miles on it) for $23000. Could I have found a diesel for that?

My oil change costs me $25, and gas is $2 per gallon right now. Same for diesel?

I get 20 mpg daily driving. How much more would a diesel get me, and would it offset the fuel cost?


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Could you have found a diesel for 23k? No, they hold their value better. My 07' sold for $44,000 new. The other day, at a gas station, a guy offered me $34,000 for it. It has only lost $10,000 in value after 82,000 miles and 8 years. Yours has lost $12,000 in 5,000 miles?

My diesel oil change costs me $35.00, and I do it half as many times as a gasser.

Diesel is 30 cents a gallon less than unleaded in my area right now. And I get 19 mpg empty/12 towing.




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My diesel oil change costs me $35.00, and I do it half as many times as a gasser.

Diesel is 30 cents a gallon less than unleaded in my area right now. And I get 19 mpg empty/12 towing.
Wow, you're lucky! Where I live oil is $5 a quart and diesel is 45 cents a gallon higher than unleaded!
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