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Old 09-29-2015, 09:48 PM   #71
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I ordered a 2015 Heavy Duty Payload Package F150 4x4 3.5 EcoBoost 6.5 foot bed SuperCrew. The order was cancelled by Ford in July due to a shortage of the Heavy Duty Payload frames. I looked at going to a gas 6.2 V8 F250 for nearly the same amount of money, and decided against it. As per Fuelly.com drivers report getting an average of 11 mpg on the F250 6.2 gas and 17 on the 3.5 Eco SuperCrew. With a 6 mpg difference, during the lifetime of the vehicle at $3.00 gas that would result in a $24,063 additional fuel cost! (I keep my trucks a long time). I have re-ordered a 2016 F150 Heavy Duty Payload, Max Tow, 36 gallon fuel tank, 4X4 3.5 EcoBoost Lariat truck, and am told it should be built in late February or early March.

In regards to depreciation, it is not how many dollars a truck depreciates that matters, but rather how much is the cost of ownership per mile driven. This is calculated by adding the purchase price plus the cost of modifications plus the cost of repairs minus the resale or salvage value divided by the miles driven. Lowest net cost per mile of ownership is to buy a new truck equipped exactly as you want, (so you don't need mods), maintain it extremely well (keeps down cost or repairs), and keep it until 250,000 miles or more (divides the cost over many miles). Second lowest cost per mile is to buy a gently-used vehicle and trade every three years or so. Highest cost per mile of ownership is to buy new and trade often.

Are you totally against a diesel? Fuel consumption is slightly higher than the 150, but resale is higher. A diesel would smoke the gas 250 per your formula. Plus it would last way longer than 250k miles.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:06 PM   #72
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I ordered a 2015 Heavy Duty Payload Package F150 4x4 3.5 EcoBoost 6.5 foot bed SuperCrew. iven. .
My neighbor has 2014 HD Payload and rides rougher than my F350. The heavy frame, suspension, higher rated tires on truck that only weights 4200 lbs makes for stiff/bumpy ride. He even admits it that my F350 has a better ride and he wife keeps asking if we want to trade trucks.

Now the HD Tow rides better than my F350 hand down. There is huge difference between the ride quality in F150 Max Tow and F150 with the HD Payload. I would test drive one before I bought one.
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Are you totally against a diesel? Fuel consumption is slightly higher than the 150, but resale is higher. A diesel would smoke the gas 250 per your formula. Plus it would last way longer than 250k miles.
Yep. When not camping or boating, my truck is a daily driver to my office and clients homes or businesses and a SuperDuty is a little too much truck.

While a diesel may last much longer than 250,000 miles, after that many miles I will be ready for a new truck anyway (approximately 9 to 10 years).
I would have to pay quite a bit more to get the diesel engine with little advantage over the F150 Heavy Duty Payload package 3.5 EcoBoost for my purposes. (Rockwood Roo 21SS).

Also a F250 crewcab shortbed is longer than a F150 supercrew longbed; a concern for fitting in the garage.

Also, I would have to wait for a 2017 F150 to get the aluminum body truck I would prefer. While the new 2017's are the sharpest Super Duty's to be built yet, I don't want to have to wait another year and another price increase.

I will not buy any GM product again, Toyota has a max 1900 payload, and Ram 2500's still have the steel body and outdated body styling.
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My neighbor has 2014 HD Payload and rides rougher than my F350. The heavy frame, suspension, higher rated tires on truck that only weights 4200 lbs makes for stiff/bumpy ride.
WOW...I have a 2013 F150 4x4 SCrew w/Max Tow & HD Payload. Loaded with me and the wife, full tank of gas, PullRite 4100 Slider, an #18 dog and maybe 25lbs of gear in the cab our truck scales at #6880. He has one great payload rating of 4,000 lbs. Which I believe is not possible in a F150.

Velosprout.....You'll be more then satisfied with the ride quality and knowing what your truck will have for a payload number.
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Now the HD Tow rides better than my F350 hand down. There is huge difference between the ride quality in F150 Max Tow and F150 with the HD Payload. I would test drive one before I bought one.
I cannot test drive one. Only one Heavy Duty Payload package F150 truck was found to be built in 2015 and that was for the Canada market. 2014 trucks wouldn't be comparable as the trucks have been completely redesigned since then, with an all-new hydroformed frame. And, we could only find four new 2014 Heavy Duty Payload package trucks still available for sale nationwide and none of them were within 500 miles.

My first truck was a 3/4 ton International Harvester 4X4 that I bought new in 1974. I have driven many grain trucks, and don't expect a truck to ride like a car. I'm sure I will be satisfied with the ride quality.
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I cannot test drive one. Only one Heavy Duty Payload package F150 truck was found to be built in 2015 and that was for the Canada market.
your order got cancelled because of a shortage of frames, but they only built 1
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WOW...I have a 2013 F150 4x4 SCrew w/Max Tow & HD Payload. Loaded with me and the wife, full tank of gas, an #18 dog and maybe 25lbs of gear in the cab our truck scales at #6880. He has one great payload rating of 4,000 lbs. Which I believe is not possible in a F150.

Velosprout.....You'll be more then satisfied with the ride quality and knowing what your truck will have for a payload number.
I was referencing the 2015 with HD Payload GVWR according to the ford site is 7850 lbs with a max play load of 3270 lbs so that would be truck couldn't weight more than 4580 lbs empty. I guess i was a little low...
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At least it's a Ford!! Lol.. I put 60 to 70k a year on my 250. Once you get in one, you won't want to go back. I thought the same as you until I had my first 250. Good luck on the purchase!!
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your order got cancelled because of a shortage of frames, but they only built 1
Yes, the factory building frames for Ford (Metalsa of Elizabethtown, KY) wasn't keeping up on production of regular frames, let alone re-tooling for making other frames. So, many customer orders for both the Heavy Duty Payload F150's and short-bed regular cab pickup trucks got cancelled. The one truck built was apparently built as a training model early production at the Kansas City plant before they got up to full production.

Ford has added a second supplier of frames (Tower Industries of Michigan) for the 2016 models, and has upgraded to an even stronger/faster method for aluminum body panels produced by Alcoa for 2016 which should speed up production times and get them caught up on orders.

The Heavy Duty Payload package truck for 2016 is still listed as "late availability" for special order.
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WOW...I have a 2013 F150 4x4 SCrew w/Max Tow & HD Payload. Loaded with me and the wife, full tank of gas, PullRite 4100 Slider, an #18 dog and maybe 25lbs of gear in the cab our truck scales at #6880. He has one great payload rating of 4,000 lbs. Which I believe is not possible in a F150.

Velosprout.....You'll be more then satisfied with the ride quality and knowing what your truck will have for a payload number.
I see the GVWR for 2013 was 8200 for HD Payload and 7700 non HD payload. Your truck weight of 6880 loaded subtracted from 8200 GVWR and that leaves 1320 payload without exceeding the manufactures max GVWR.
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