2015 Ford F-150 Supercrew 5th wheel hitch 5 1/2' box

[Terry104410]

looking for advise on a new 5th wheel hitch for an F-150 supercrew 5.5' box. I am new to pulling and that box sure looks small to pull a 5th wheel. 2007 Rockwood Ultra Lite 8288ss
8400 lbs loaded, 1420 pin, 100 lb for hitch in box. Can I tow this with the twin Turbo 3.5 Ecoboost like they say along with two adults, two Golden Retrievers, and a full tank of petro?

terry104410

[bikendan]

What's your truck's payload capacity? It's on the yellow sticker, on the driver's side door.

ALWAYS the more important spec when towing a 5th wheel.

Is the 1420lbs pin weight loaded or the brochure/website "dry" pin weight?

[Terry104410]

2060 payload I know it would be close. Thinking I got 600 lbs in truck plus the fuel.

[clr]

Well as I read the 2015 cargo capacity for that truck with 4x2 and 17 inch wheels, 156.8 inch wheel base states CCC is no more that 1760 and may be 1496 pounds max. That number is with a 150 pound driver and a full tank of gas but nothing else.
So lets add this up you 150 pounds may be but lets say 200 + 50 pounds. Wife lets say 120 pounds, 100 pound hitch, two dogs easy 120 pounds plus the pin weight of 1420 pounds. That is a total of 1811 pounds already over on either of the above numbers. So not a good idea to tow that 5th wheel with your truck. But when I look up your model 5th wheel it says it weighs 6366 pounds dry. So the 1420 pounds might be on the high side. Need more info I suppose to arrive at a final recommendation. Pack light very light.

[fx2]

Originally Posted by clr

Well as I read the 2015 cargo capacity for that truck with 4x2 and 17 inch wheels, 156.8 inch wheel base states CCC is no more that 1760 and may be 1496 pounds max. That number is with a 150 pound driver and a full tank of gas but nothing else.
So lets add this up you 150 pounds may be but lets say 200 + 50 pounds. Wife lets say 120 pounds, 100 pound hitch, two dogs easy 120 pounds plus the pin weight of 1420 pounds. That is a total of 1811 pounds already over on either of the above numbers. So not a good idea to tow that 5th wheel with your truck. But when I look up your model 5th wheel it says it weighs 6366 pounds dry. So the 1420 pounds might be on the high side. Need more info I suppose to arrive at a final recommendation. Pack light very light.

I don't know where you got that but it's not accurate. As an example I have a 2016 (no different than a 2016 and was actually built in June 2015) F150 Crew Cab 2WD Platinum with every option and my payload is over 1700

[CaptnJohn]

I don't know many that would be concerned about 51# over ~~ but some certainly would be. Put everyone inc dogs on a diet and there ya go,,

[Terry104410]

This type of info is exactly what is wrong with this site. One says one thing one says another. Not the first time this happens all the time. I would trust a word that comes off this site when it comes to this topic at all. The rest of the info on here is just a possible solution or suggestion. The information is Not worth the time it takes to look up.

My last word on this site.

[itat]

Terry 104410, you posted on your other thread that you also have a 3/4 ton to pull with. You got advise and agreed back on 10-24-2015 that you would be better off towing with the 3/4 ton. Yes, your F-150 with the aluminum body has a much better payload than the older ones with a steel body but if you have the 3/4 ton why are you still on about using the F-150 when you admit you're very close to being over its specs? The gas mileage towing the 8288SS with the Ecoboost won't be significantly better.

Clr's payload numbers are wrong but you've previously agreed to his advice about your F-150 so don't get upset with him or anyone whose advice you've already agreed with!

[Codz03]

We have somewhat of the same pickup just 4x4 and you won't have any problems. We tow a rockwood 8289 5th wheel and the truck handles it no problem. We set the cruise 60-65 and let er go.

[doc73]

Originally Posted by Terry104410

This type of info is exactly what is wrong with this site. One says one thing one says another. Not the first time this happens all the time. I would trust a word that comes off this site when it comes to this topic at all. The rest of the info on here is just a possible solution or suggestion. The information is Not worth the time it takes to look up.

My last word on this site.

Welcome to the Internet and the forums... If it is posted, somewhere, it must be true!

EDIT to be a bit more helpful: Here is the problem... This forum, as all, are made up of lots of people with LOTS of experience and knowledge. Some have the idea of F it.. I know my truck can do this, I know better than the maker, of the ones who set the weight ratings (whom veer they are, assuming engineers). AND, some have the theory of following the stickers on the truck (weight police).

I am in the latter. I have a 2450 payload and that is what it is.. Nothing more. As Bikendan said, your payload is what matters along with the "real" pin weight. Not what the brochure says. If you read a few threads you will find the folks that thought the trailer weighted X empty and it turned our to weight Z (could be more than 1k off sometimes. Fuel is part of your payload so no need to figure in with your 600lbs. If your 1800lbs came from the brochure then it is most likely wrong as you will NEVER (more than likely) have this pin weight.. Even when you pick up the trailer since I have never heard of one being wrong underweight. If it is real world then you have your numbers.

If they all add up to be under your 2000lbs payload, drive on! If not, that is for you to decide how to proceed not for us to tell you how you should.



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[Terry104410]

Thanks Codz03. I never said it was a 4X2 in fact it is a 4X4 they all just feed off each other. Fact is your 5th wheel 8289ws is bigger than what I want to pull. If you can handle it so can I. Both dealers say I was close but could do it. And the reason I want to dump the 2500HD is that the other 49 weeks each year it is used as an everyday vehicle. At 11 MPG without pulling anything. Plus not easy to pull into a regular parking place extended cab 8' box and of course I need a football field to turn it around in. Just a PIA for everyday driving.

[Scootdawg]

Originally Posted by Codz03

We have somewhat of the same pickup just 4x4 and you won't have any problems. We tow a rockwood 8289 5th wheel and the truck handles it no problem. We set the cruise 60-65 and let er go.

Same set up as yours, and tow 60 -65 with the cruise set. Been up and down the east coast the past few years and it tows great. I did put some better tires and airbags on the truck.

[CWSWine]

Very simple site to figure our what you truck can tow and stay within the specifications of the truck. It is just 5th grade math nothing magical about the numbers.

Towing Planner - towing capability calculators

[CWSWine]

With a 2060 payload with a 150lbs drive and 250lbs 5th wheel hitch and nothing else in the truck here is what tow planner gives you


You're adding approximately 400 lbs. to the truck. You have 1,660 lbs. of payload capacity. Fifth wheels typically have 20% - 25% pin weight which gives you a maximum loaded camper weight of 6,640 - 8,300 lbs.

Towing Calculator based on Truck's Payload/CCC - Towing Planner

[wnelsonfl]

I have been researching this subject for about a year. If you run the numbers you are on the hairy edge, but I have run into many people running similar setups in camp grounds. Most tell me it is fine if you add airbags. Bottom line in you can do it if the mountains are not too steep and you keep your speed down.

[Terry104410]

Crybaby? No just new. But every tow weight question starts out then someone says that info is wrong or some body assumes something that is no written in the post and before they get back on all of the info posted is butt kiss and is not worth trying to get question back on track. I have read enough of these post over the last few month to realize I would trust most of you on this site to tell me night is dark and day is light. Don't look for another post from me. I am more confused after all your help than before I started. Already too many of you that think you know more than you actually do. Thanks for your "EXPERT" opinions.

[menekaunee]

Invest $150 in a Sherline LM-5000 scale. Get the 'real' dry pin weight before you purchase the fiver. You will have it for future purchases also.

A great website also.
RV Safety|RV Towing Calculator|Tow Ratings|GCWR

[Flybob]

I am going to close this thread for now as it has become hostile and is no longer productive. The "can I tow it?" question has always produced a wide variety of responses and towing experiences and generates some strong opinions.