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Old 07-09-2016, 09:17 AM   #31
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Towabilty

I.Q., 2011 F150 HT/HP has axles for 2393 (#8200 package) frame looks like a lightweight F250, HP package. Yup, you can tow more with the standard diesel F250 but don't overload the hitch. It appears Ford and other manufactures engineering departments since they don't know what their vehicles are doing in real life should add more columns to their spec sheet to include air bags/helper springs to gain payload and of coarse add tire ratings. My last post, too many external engineers who know so much more than the manufactures.
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Old 07-09-2016, 09:23 AM   #32
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These arguments are much like my preacher says folks have the tendency to do.......they want to argue about how can they do the absolute least possible and still get to Heaven........

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Old 07-09-2016, 08:24 PM   #33
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My 2011 Ram 2500 CC has a payload of 3,000 but a tow rating of only 9,100 & GCVW of only 15,000. The very next year they upped the tow rating to 11,100 & GCVW to 17,000 with minimal changes to design... IMO they wrote the specs conservative as to not take-away sales from their more pricey diesel upgrades... So, as it stands, I actually have a lower tow rating & GCVW than some 1/2 tons...

However, IMO I can operate very near GCVW without feeling I am pushing my truck. Recently I had to make an emergency stop behind a state highway patrol car that came to a complete stop on the interstate - when he noticed a gate blocked his turn-around spot... Nearly hit him with 7.5 tons but the 2500 kept everything under control for a super-fast emergency stop from 65 mph on an interstate...

I used to tow construction gear with various 1/2, 3/4 & 1 ton trucks & we could routinely push the 3/4 & 1 ton trucks to their limits daily & they drove & held-up great. When we pushed the 1/2 tons to their limits we had safety & mechanical issues. Most notably heavier trailers push the lighter 1/2 tons around during emergency stopping. You can't always predict how the TT brakes will handle in wet road conditions, etc. & sometimes you get more trailer pushing against you than you expect...


Yup. The 3/4 and 1-ton ratings are way under their capabilities, however the 1/2 ton specs are beyond their safe abilities IMO.


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Old 07-10-2016, 04:45 PM   #34
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Max Tow should give you more but a lot depends on Trim level. For example a King Ranch can eat 200 lbs of CCC easy
Max Tow does not increase payload.
Max Payload does.
Two diff options.


As a former owner of a 2015 3.5L 6.5' 4x4 with MaxTow I recommend just going diesel 250 or 350.

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Old 07-10-2016, 05:16 PM   #35
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Max Tow does not increase payload.
Max Payload does.
Two diff options.


As a former owner of a 2015 3.5L 6.5' 4x4 with MaxTow I recommend just going diesel 250 or 350.

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Agree. When we had a 29' TT I bought a F150 max tow and max payload . Biggest mistake ever. The 350 diesel will do all I ever want. C
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I'm just going to buy Peterbilt Semi and call it a day. Sometimes I wonder why I ever bothered buying my F150 and sometimes I think it must be my imagination that it does just fine with my camper. I must be nuts.

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Old 07-10-2016, 06:05 PM   #37
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I lost thousands on my 2015. I think about 8$k if you factor in my Feb-june payments. Didn't even get 4000 miles on it.

I never felt it lacked on power but I wasn't so sure I could stop my 35' trailer loaded coming down the Cajon Pass etc. Once I pulled the same trailer w the 6.7l diesel f250 I felt the difference first trip. It was really all about my family safety as I have 2 small kids n a wife. If I was solo, I'd prob have kept the f150 and for sure overloaded it in payload and used airbags etc.
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I'm just going to buy Peterbilt Semi and call it a day. Sometimes I wonder why I ever bothered buying my F150 and sometimes I think it must be my imagination that it does just fine with my camper. I must be nuts.

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this is the response every 1/2 ton owner ends a discussion with, as they know they have nothing else to go with
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this is the response every 1/2 ton owner ends a discussion with, as they know they have nothing else to go with
I thought max payload and tow with the EB was going to work great. It worked, barely. Special order took weeks. Lost $$ on the trade as few care about those things.
That was mistake 1 AND 2 as buying the bigger truck meant we could get the camper we really wanted. So now a 2016 5er sits on a 2016 F350. Doing it right the first time would have saved thousands.
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I thought max payload and tow with the EB was going to work great. It worked, barely. Special order took weeks. Lost $$ on the trade as few care about those things.
That was mistake 1 AND 2 as buying the bigger truck meant we could get the camper we really wanted. So now a 2016 5er sits on a 2016 F350. Doing it right the first time would have saved thousands.
many of us have similar stories. 3 campers and 4 trucks over 5 years. Should have just started off with this truck and 5th wheel combo. Or maybe this truck and the next 5th wheel
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