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Old 08-23-2016, 10:06 PM   #1
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2016 F 250 Crew Cab real world weights

Here are the real life weights of my 2016 F250 Crew Cab diesel short bed (no trailer) measured just today. I topped off the fuel, stood on the scales with the truck, and the only additional weights not from the factory is a spray in bed liner, a Line-x hard folding tonneau cover, and maybe another 10 pounds under the rear seats. I weigh 215 so that is 65 pounds more than the 150 pounds in the Ford specs. First the specs from the door stickers:


GVWR = 10,000 LB Front GAWR = 5940 LB Rear GAWR = 6100 LB
Recommended Payload = 2059 LB @ 65 PSI cold tire pressure.


Now the CAT weight: Steer Axle = 4980 LB Drive Axle = 3280 LB
Gross Weight = 8260 LB. This is real world weight without my generator, wife, pets, WDH, and tools.


As you can see just forget what a sales rep or factory tells you about towing specs on your vehicle. I am still within the parameters of my loaded toy hauler (1000 lbs. TW) but I have a truck that can haul a lot more than rated and cannot legally use it. If I upgrade in the future I will be out of spec but will have a lot of company on the road.


I know this has been beat to death but I thought someone maybe be interested in real world numbers.
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Factory payload is figured from curb weight which is all fluids full but no driver or passengers and the yellow sticker is the weight for your truck..

Tow capacity is based on zero options truck with 150 lbs driver.

Take the weight of your truck ready to camp and subtract it from the Gross Combine Weight Rating and you will have the Towing Capacity for your truck.
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My truck ready to go camping with trailer weighs 9460 lbs. My GCWR is 23,500 and my last weigh with camper was 18,780 lbs. I have plenty of room to tow more. As you can see I am sorta anal about the weights. Thanks for the input.
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My truck ready to go camping with trailer weighs 9460 lbs. My GCWR is 23,500 and my last weigh with camper was 18,780 lbs. I have plenty of room to tow more. As you can see I am sorta anal about the weights. Thanks for the input.
Like the example the OP gave he is going to run out payload long before he runs out towing capacity. That is the point he is trying to make with the post.
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Like the example the OP gave he is going to run out payload long before he runs out towing capacity. That is the point he is trying to make with the post.
Zoom is the OP. His second post kinda confuses his first post, kinda ignores payload which is the one spec that always gets violated first, typically....
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Zoom is the OP. His second post kinda confuses his first post, kinda ignores payload which is the one spec that always gets violated first, typically....
I should have pointed out that I only have 1740 lbs of legal payload but that is OK for my XLR. But you are right about the payload parameter being the first to be exceeded. If I wanted to tow a 5er I may not be able to find one that I can legally tow.
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I should have pointed out that I only have 1740 lbs of legal payload but that is OK for my XLR. But you are right about the payload parameter being the first to be exceeded. If I wanted to tow a 5er I may not be able to find one that I can legally tow.
Thanks for the weight info. I have only been here a short time but have learned that if you are thinking of upgrading to a 5er you need a 350.
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Here are the real life weights of my 2016 F250 Crew Cab diesel short bed (no trailer) measured just today. I topped off the fuel, stood on the scales with the truck, and the only additional weights not from the factory is a spray in bed liner, a Line-x hard folding tonneau cover, and maybe another 10 pounds under the rear seats. I weigh 215 so that is 65 pounds more than the 150 pounds in the Ford specs. First the specs from the door stickers:


GVWR = 10,000 LB Front GAWR = 5940 LB Rear GAWR = 6100 LB
Recommended Payload = 2059 LB @ 65 PSI cold tire pressure.


Now the CAT weight: Steer Axle = 4980 LB Drive Axle = 3280 LB
Gross Weight = 8260 LB. This is real world weight without my generator, wife, pets, WDH, and tools.


As you can see just forget what a sales rep or factory tells you about towing specs on your vehicle. I am still within the parameters of my loaded toy hauler (1000 lbs. TW) but I have a truck that can haul a lot more than rated and cannot legally use it. If I upgrade in the future I will be out of spec but will have a lot of company on the road.


I know this has been beat to death but I thought someone maybe be interested in real world numbers.


As you have found, the 3/4 tons and their "paper" GVWR of 10,000 lbs really limits payload.

However, once you understand your F250 is identical to an F350 (with the possible exception of 4" blocks under the spring pack), you will realize you have much more real-world payload capacity.

It is simply a matter of: do you care about the GVWR or not.


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Zoom. If you're trying to be 100% exact on your weights, standing on the scales throws it off a little bit for your axle weights. To me, axle weights are the most important thing.

If you were standing on a scale, your body weight went to the overall weight but also only the axle weight of the scale you were on. So if you were on the front scale, your front axle isn't quite as high as it read.

Maybe take 110 lbs. off the scale your were standing on and add it to the other. It still leaves your overall weight the same.

Not trying to be a stickler. But if you're being as attentive as to fill it with fuel, etc., that could effect your numbers a little.
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Remember that axle weights are static weights, that is why the GVWR is below the axle ratings. If load to the axle weights and don't move the truck you are fine but when you start down the road you will exceed the axle ratings with the first bump or hill you go down and apply the brakes.

Don't you think with the payload wars of the big three if was safe to load to axle weights they would all be using axles weights for payload ratings.

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