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Old 10-22-2015, 12:18 PM   #21
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Stopped at the Dodge dealership last night; and built a truck - be interested to hear pro's, con's, and general comments... It's not a dedicated TV, but I have a separate truck for work, and the wife's got an SUV for grocery-getting... So it's main uses are running around town, and dragging a trailer.

2016 2500 Ram SLT Crew cab / 6'4" box
6.4 Hemi
4.10 gears
Factory brake controller
5th wheel prep
8.4" UConnect w/ Sirius and backup camera

Few other goodies (remote start, running boards, etc) for 61 k CAD - seemed pretty reasonable to me.

I didn't go with the auto-leveling airbags, just because I don't know anything about them...

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Thought this would give folks food for thought.
Ok here is something I ran across in one of my well known car mags that has a tech person on board and is highly respected and Knowledgeable.

There was a question asked should I buy a diesel or go with gas. Shorten the question to quote I will use the truck for driving to work about 5 miles per day and then a couple of times a year towing camper and car trailer 1000 miles or so.

Answer Quote: I love the theory of compression ignition(diesel) and as you said they sure run well and make power. With all this said I would advise not to buy the diesel. but buy the gas.
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It adds about $8500 to the cost of the truck.
They are costly to repair
You will need to treat the fuel year round for best performance. or at least in the winter
Your short drive to work will kill the engine. A diesel due to it's mass of block takes much longer to heat the oil than a gas.
The engine will require the use of DEF which is no big deal just another thing to do.
Diesel fuel is more expensive than gas. Though diesel is fuel efficient., if you do the math the break even point on fuel savings alone is around 250,000 miles. and that is if nothing breaks on it during that time.

When it comes to gas engines all three make excellent power plants.
The authors selection t end of article was the Ford 6.2L says it's awesome for snow plowing and out pull Chevy or Dodge.

Just some food for thought and one needs to know what he want to do with the tv. Later RJD
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Old 10-22-2015, 12:54 PM   #22
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3260 is the calculated payload, based on the options I spec'd on the truck.

Looking like a 10-12 k jump to go 3500 diesel... That's a big leap.

We did about 40 nights this season, about 3500 km (about 2200 miles) - don't know if that's enough to justify the jump up...

Trailer were looking at has a pin on 2062 dry, so figuring 2200 loaded; still gives 1000# of overhead for passengers and 'stuff'... My gut is saying it's enough, without going too big; but definitely open to discussion.
Guessing pin weights are tough. The one below in my sig had a 1950 dry pin weight and 9,990 dry trailer weight. I loaded 1180 lbs and pin jumped to 2740 real pin weight. It started at just below 20% dry pin but jumped to 24.1% loaded and I exceed at Chevy 2500HD diesel by over 700 lbs and withing 200 lbs of the axle and tire weights.

Even if you stay gas I would still go to the 3500...
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:01 PM   #23
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As far as DEF. All the hype and BS is just that. I have 12,000 km and filled the tank within the first week, while on a 3 week trip added 2.5 gallons so I did not run out and last month filled it again, Buying bulk or filling at the truck stop is cheap. I spent a total of $20 bucks on DEF for the first 6 months of ownership. the most expensive was what I bought at TSC in Goshen, $10 for 2.5 gallons.
DEF's not a big deal, you're right - about half the trucks we have at the firehall are equipped with DPF/DEF systems - but it is "one more thing"


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When it comes to gas engines all three make excellent power plants.
The authors selection t end of article was the Ford 6.2L says it's awesome for snow plowing and out pull Chevy or Dodge.

Just some food for thought and one needs to know what he want to do with the tv. Later RJD
I've got a Ford 250 gasser as a work truck... 6.2 pulls an 8000# generator trailer like it isn't there.

My preference would be a Ford - but Dodge is giving the trucks away right now, it seems... Maybe give my Ford dealer a chance to sharpen his pencil a bit, and go again.
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:13 PM   #24
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Well, we did something a little foolish last weekend... we went to the fall RV show.

DW saw (and fell in love with) a mid-bunk 5v'er. We haven't put pen to paper on that yet; but she's serious enough about the trailer, that I need to get serious about a truck that can pull it. FYI trailer we're looking at is a dry pin of 2k, and about 12k dry...

Stopped at the Dodge dealership last night; and built a truck - be interested to hear pro's, con's, and general comments... It's not a dedicated TV, but I have a separate truck for work, and the wife's got an SUV for grocery-getting... So it's main uses are running around town, and dragging a trailer.

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6.4 Hemi
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Factory brake controller
5th wheel prep
8.4" UConnect w/ Sirius and backup camera

Few other goodies (remote start, running boards, etc) for 61 k CAD - seemed pretty reasonable to me.

I didn't go with the auto-leveling airbags, just because I don't know anything about them...

So - comments?
It doesn't matter if you go gas or diesel, Ford, Ram or GM do it right and go 1 ton. You won't regret it.

We went with a 2500 when we bought our Rockwood, Two years later we traded for a Wildcat 317RL. The 2500 did the job but I was pushing the GVW. I recently traded for a 2015 3500 and have no regrets. if you ever decide to go bigger you're set. If you already have a 2500 you are happy with it should work fine.
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:29 PM   #25
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DEF's not a big deal, you're right - about half the trucks we have at the firehall are equipped with DPF/DEF systems - but it is "one more thing"




I've got a Ford 250 gasser as a work truck... 6.2 pulls an 8000# generator trailer like it isn't there.

My preference would be a Ford - but Dodge is giving the trucks away right now, it seems... Maybe give my Ford dealer a chance to sharpen his pencil a bit, and go again.
I agree about dodge doing good deals now. Just maybe the way to go. Later RJD
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Well, if appears Ford's back in the running...

Amazing what a phone call, and saying "I went to the Dodge dealer yesterday..." can do.

2015 350 SRW
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FX4 package, dressed up nicer then I wanted, to be honest... for 58k

Payload of 3424#, towing 15.7k...

Hmmm...
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I just ordered a 2016 Ram 2500 with the 6.7 Cummins. This will be my first Ram, only had GMC products in the past. Everything I have heard about them has been good things.
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Old 10-22-2015, 03:15 PM   #28
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Well, if appears Ford's back in the running...

Amazing what a phone call, and saying "I went to the Dodge dealer yesterday..." can do.

2015 350 SRW
6.7 Diesel
FX4 package, dressed up nicer then I wanted, to be honest... for 58k

Payload of 3424#, towing 15.7k...

Hmmm...
Funny how that works. Later RJD
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I have a 2012 ram 3500 CC Limited SRW with the 6.7 Cummins, there isn't a better diesel out there than the Cummins for towing. This truck pulls my 5er like it's not even there. Ram has come a long way and right now I think it's the best diesel or gas truck on the market. Other than one recall it's never been back to the dealer. I just wish Ram would put a better tire on the bigger trucks, those Firestone Transforce HT tires SUCK.
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I went with the deisel, I've put 12,000 on a dually 3500, the mileage is great, pulls like a dream, I would go big and deisel, you will love it. Never worry about weight , your wife's weight or what's in the storage tanks, just go and smile
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