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Originally Posted by dustman_stx
Possibly, but I don't know all of the idiotic regulations that are out there. Funny that you mention the simple clicking of the box changing the GVWR considering nothing about the truck changes. Kind of indicates that those numbers are pretty pointless and arbitrary, doesn't it.  |
That is done for purpose of people not wanting to pay higher fees, and just buying what meets their needs. With Ram raising the SRW GVWR above the magic 11,500 and Ford staying put must mean that Ford believes that figure should not be exceeded and that's why Ford not doing the keep up the Jones mentality with GVWR above 11,500.
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06-03-2016, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dustman_stx
Possibly, but I don't know all of the idiotic regulations that are out there. Funny that you mention the simple clicking of the box changing the GVWR considering nothing about the truck changes. Kind of indicates that those numbers are pretty pointless and arbitrary, doesn't it. |
That is true. The 3/4 ton class could be eliminated because in reality they are built to 1 ton standards and then derated to create the 3/4s. The difference between the two is often only a leaf spring.
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06-03-2016, 01:36 PM
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In Ontario anything above 10,000 lbs requires annual inspections also licence fees go up to about double, close to $400.00.
I had a choice and could register my truck lower for a passenger fees but opted for full 9,990 rate.
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06-03-2016, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by KenHwy61
That is true. The 3/4 ton class could be eliminated because in reality they are built to 1 ton standards and then derated to create the 3/4s. The difference between the two is often only a leaf spring.
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That is exactly it. For example my 2001 F250 spring codes front and rear were the same as a SRW F350. My rear blocks were different. I changed the blocks out to the F350 blocks. Now the front differential is different unfortunately- Dana 50 vs. Dana 60 but the change in the rating is minimal.
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06-04-2016, 07:54 AM
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FYI. When buying a truck bigger than a 3/4 ton, go find the commercial/fleet sales dept. at the dealership. Ford, Dodge, Chevy, GMC, doesn't matter. These guys sell these truck everyday. They know the product. The retail guys hardly ever sell this size trucks.
Hope this helps.
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06-04-2016, 08:18 AM
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Guessing they boxed the frame not because of any issue, but to keep up with the competition.
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06-04-2016, 11:06 AM
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I, personally, am waiting for the 2018. Let them get the first year kinks worked out and then jump. My '16 F150 is by far the most comfortable truck I've ever driven. They're using the cab and interior in the '17 on SD so I'm looking forward to that.
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06-04-2016, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fx2
I, personally, am waiting for the 2018. Let them get the first year kinks worked out and then jump. My '16 F150 is by far the most comfortable truck I've ever driven. They're using the cab and interior in the '17 on SD so I'm looking forward to that.
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I'm waiting on incentives. My 2016 F250 could be gone soon,,,, or held a while.
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06-11-2016, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Mars
Just looked at the order guides again:
10,000 GVWR/9,900 GVWR Package
(10,000 GVWR Pkg. avail. on F-350 SRW only;
9,900 GVWR Pkg. avail. on F-250 only)
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11,400 GVWR Package (see Packaged
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You are correct. The GVWR for 2017 Ford Super Duty F350 SRW has been reduced in 2017 to 11,400 from the 11,500 lbs of previous years.
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06-11-2016, 11:00 AM
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You are correct. The GVWR for 2017 Ford Super Duty F350 SRW has been reduced in 2017 to 11,400 from the 11,500 lbs of previous years.
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And with the truck weighing about 300 lbs less, payload will still increase slightly.
Build and Price site is up now.
2017 Ford SuperDuty - Build & Price
Just need the specs now. Probably another month away from those.
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06-13-2016, 08:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KenHwy61
That is true. The 3/4 ton class could be eliminated because in reality they are built to 1 ton standards and then derated to create the 3/4s. The difference between the two is often only a leaf spring.
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Today's Super Duties, there isn't even a leaf spring difference. You can get the camper package on the F250 which gets you the overload spring, just like the F350.
Same everything else (brakes, differentials, axles, etc.). The F359 has the taller blocks though.
The F250 is handicapped at 10,000 GVWR to keep it a "class 2" truck. Even though it is the same as an F350.
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06-13-2016, 12:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 325BH
Today's Super Duties, there isn't even a leaf spring difference. You can get the camper package on the F250 which gets you the overload spring, just like the F350.
Same everything else (brakes, differentials, axles, etc.). The F359 has the taller blocks though.
The F250 is handicapped at 10,000 GVWR to keep it a "class 2" truck. Even though it is the same as an F350.
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Set a 3200lbs pin weight on F250 Camper Special and then set it on a F350 then come back and tell there isn't a difference. I did just that!!
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06-13-2016, 12:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 325BH
Today's Super Duties, there isn't even a leaf spring difference. You can get the camper package on the F250 which gets you the overload spring, just like the F350.
Same everything else (brakes, differentials, axles, etc.). The F359 has the taller blocks though.
The F250 is handicapped at 10,000 GVWR to keep it a "class 2" truck. Even though it is the same as an F350.
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My 2016 F250 6.7 with the camper pkg just 3 leaf springs. An F350 has 4.
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06-13-2016, 02:11 PM
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I'm talking SRW here. Should have specified. Big difference between SRW and DRW.
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06-13-2016, 02:13 PM
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My 2016 F250 6.7 with the camper pkg just 3 leaf springs. An F350 has 4.
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Both are 2016 Single wheel... my F250 and neighbor's F350
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06-13-2016, 02:19 PM
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Both are 2016 Single wheel... my F250 and neighbor's F350
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Every F350 SRW and F250 I have looked at (new ones) on dealer lots, and that is many, have the same leaf springs. The only exception is the overload spring, which comes with the camper package on the F250.
The F350 does have taller blocks, which provides a couple extra inches of travel.
This is all well documented. Just do some searching. You do have to evaluate newer ones though. They have changed over the years.
Not trying to be argumentative, just answering questions.
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