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12-18-2017, 03:58 PM
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Senior Member
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2019 Silverado
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12-18-2017, 04:09 PM
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Let me start by saying I’ve been a GM guy for over 20 years...
I’m not impressed at all! It looks a lot like the Tundra. They spent millions of dollars to bash Ford on the aluminum body but then switched to an aluminum bed. I don’t get it.
Sorry, it’s a fail for me.
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12-18-2017, 04:25 PM
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Chevy had to bash Ford for aluminum to keep market share until they could come with their own.
I see they've gone to Ford style wheel well openings, too (round instead of squared off).
They've just made their new 2018 Traverse look a lot like a Ford Explorer.
I think Chevy's really in a catch-up game these days.
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12-18-2017, 04:29 PM
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Wrench Turnin Fool
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I can't stand the square wheel wells.
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12-18-2017, 04:40 PM
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The 2019 Silverado uses a higher-grade alloy in its roll-formed, high-strength-steel bed floor
Aluminum????
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12-18-2017, 04:41 PM
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
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At least its a change for the body style now they need to work on the interior. Not so bad I'll be looking for one in 2020 it they have the 3/4 tons out by then. Later RJD
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12-18-2017, 04:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic Wolf
I can't stand the square wheel wells.
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+2^^
Looks like I can finally consider GM now. The round wheels in a square well was a deal breaker for me also.
That new GM is sharp!
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12-18-2017, 04:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandJCarm
The 2019 Silverado uses a higher-grade alloy in its roll-formed, high-strength-steel bed floor
Aluminum????
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It was rumored they were going to use aluminum on the floor of the bed and alloy on the sides....
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12-18-2017, 04:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Allen
Let me start by saying I’ve been a GM guy for over 20 years...
I’m not impressed at all! It looks a lot like the Tundra. They spent millions of dollars to bash Ford on the aluminum body but then switched to an aluminum bed. I don’t get it.
Sorry, it’s a fail for me.
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I've thought they all looked a little like the Tundra, or the Tundra was copying the American brands to keep up. Actually I've mistaken many Fords thinking they were Tundra or vise-versa.
They didn't mention aluminum directly, "The 2019 Silverado uses a higher-grade alloy in its roll-formed, high-strength-steel bed floor, making its bed more functional at lighter weight"
Talk about bashing, thinking back many years, Ford said the push rod over head rocker engines GM started producing in the early years would never last, ooops.
I've owned Chevys, Ford and GMC's but no Chrysler-Dodge products. Can't say that I have found any great difference in them, just a personal preference of a given year model.
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12-18-2017, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Allen
It was rumored they were going to use aluminum on the floor of the bed and alloy on the sides....
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By who? Ford guys?
LOL
I did read that carbon fiber beds were a possibility.
Lots of new 'stuff' in the truck world in last few years. Exciting. Used to be lots of difference in the "Big 3" (which were the Big Two pre-Lee Iococca), then they were all 3 about equal. Now it seems there is technology making differences a bit more apparent. Thus the "Truck Arguments". Ford puts a turbo boost in a mid sized 6 cylinder, and folks go nuts. Chevy makes a diesel in a small truck, and folks go nuts. One makes aluminum to reduce weight (don't try and repair it after a wreck, though!), the other makes heavier beds. Heavy or fuel efficient? Who knows?
But boy, reading stuff on here about truck differences is more fun than underwater football.
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12-18-2017, 05:00 PM
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There’s really not much difference between the Big 3. It’s all in preference. In my business we use Chevy. 32 to be exact and love the fleet. But when buying a personal 2500 to pull my 5er I went with a Ram. It’s all preference.
This day in age they are all very similar. Most have minimal packages all the way up to all the bells and whistles. Again, preference.
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12-18-2017, 06:04 PM
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Senior Member
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I was just starting to like the looks of the Chevy/GMC trucks, the 2016/17 models look great.
This thing.... I don’t know what this is other than an abortion that some how survived...
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12-18-2017, 08:39 PM
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Just as confused as you
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If you guys will think back though all the years, they all copy each other. When Dodge came out with the slant grill on the Dodge Omni it wasn't long before Ford put them on the Mustang and GM put a slightly less slant on their Camaro/Firebird. When Dodge/Plymouth went to a wider stance on the Barracuda/Challenger, it wasn't long til Ford did the Mustang and GM did the Camaro/Firebird.
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12-18-2017, 09:37 PM
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The all American Chevy, that looks like a Tundra (or a mix of a Tundra and the smaller Chevy Colorado), introduced by an Aussie with a British accent. Whaaaat?
I do agree with the round wheel wells. It took me years to figure out why I didn't like the looks of the Chevy's, especially the HD's. And it dawned on me one day it was the square wheel wells. They just look awkward. And the chubby chipmunk cheeks also.
Overall, I do not like the new styling. Those goofy little reverse parantheses lights are way out of place. Of course after seeing many of the new F-250's with their big obnoxious headlights, I can't say too much. When will there be the perfect mix of styling and funcion? When I ask??
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12-18-2017, 10:24 PM
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Senior Member
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Humans do not enjoy change for the most part. Every time any vehicle model changes substantially, most dislike it until they get used to seeing it around. Every time Chevy changes their trucks I like parts of it, and miss parts of the old style. After a bit, I love all of them. Much to my wife's chagrine, I still own 4 very different body styles of Chevy trucks .
I don't like the new styles resemblance to Tundra, but I'm also sure I'll get over it.
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12-18-2017, 10:44 PM
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NMWildcat
I really kinda liked the 58 1/2 ton Apache.
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12-18-2017, 10:49 PM
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Wrench Turnin Fool
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Quote:
Originally Posted by herbike
NMWildcat
I really kinda liked the 58 1/2 ton Apache.
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My brother found a 59 1 ton for sale nearby... I wonder how that will handle a fifth wheel????
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12-18-2017, 11:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by herbike
NMWildcat
I really kinda liked the 58 1/2 ton Apache.
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I agree. Any Apache is a classic!
I was looking at a nice '54 five window the other day. I sure want it, but DW says I need another pickup like another hole in my head. And I think she was willing to put that new hole in my head
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12-18-2017, 11:10 PM
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NMWildcat
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12-18-2017, 11:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrapper
If you guys will think back though all the years, they all copy each other. When Dodge came out with the slant grill on the Dodge Omni it wasn't long before Ford put them on the Mustang and GM put a slightly less slant on their Camaro/Firebird. When Dodge/Plymouth went to a wider stance on the Barracuda/Challenger, it wasn't long til Ford did the Mustang and GM did the Camaro/Firebird.
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You're right. That big obnoxious maw on the front of new Lexus's (Lexi?)seems to be working it's way into the rest of the Toyota stable. UGGGGGLY!
I think the new Traverses grill looks like it came off a Ford Fusion.
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2009 Silverado 1500 Ext Cab, 5.3L, 4x4, 3.73
2016 Silverado 2500HD Dbl Cab, 6.0L 4x4, 4.10
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