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Old 02-27-2015, 01:35 PM   #21
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I heard from the OP via PM who thanked me for my thoughts a couple of times including a few minutes ago.

As for "hype" and damaged cabs, anyone can feel free to look at mine. Bad logic there really. Because something can happen to a small amount of users does not mean it will happen to everyone. Blanket statements don't help anyone...
It's not a blanket statement it's common sense... I'm glad the OP took your opinion. Have a great day and safe towing to the OP.
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:48 PM   #22
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No and a Silverback has nothing to do with it if you can only turn 88 degrees you are going to get caught one day going down a road that you will not be able to turn around on. Grew up on semi and flat beds. Been trained by the best US ARMY..... Turning that baby around on a single lane road that your GPS took you down by mistake. That's my Opinion, there are also other manufactors that claim the same thing. Take a look at some of there damaged caps and dented cabs because you fell for the hype.. By the way I'm answering the OP not you or anyone else. He doesn't have to take my advice. Sure haven't heard from him yet. ONLY PEOPLE who disagree with my opinion. I'm not sure what the distence is between the pin and cap but where your hitch is located in a F250 is only 3' from the center hitch to the cab. What is the measured distance from the pin to the cap? On the Silverback you keep quoting?
Silverback has everything to do with it. That was the point of the question. Silver backs allow for 90 degree plus turning radius with out a slider period. On 6.6 foot beds. Your confusing the original poster by commenting on equipment you did not have
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Old 02-27-2015, 02:22 PM   #23
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I think people on this forum are getting cabin fever as there seems to be more and more discussions turning into arguments. This is supposed to be a friendly place that people can voice there opinions and not get shot down for doing so.
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Old 02-27-2015, 02:35 PM   #24
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I think people on this forum are getting cabin fever as there seems to be more and more discussions turning into arguments. This is supposed to be a friendly place that people can voice there opinions and not get shot down for doing so.
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Old 02-27-2015, 02:41 PM   #25
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I think people on this forum are getting cabin fever as there seems to be more and more discussions turning into arguments. This is supposed to be a friendly place that people can voice there opinions and not get shot down for doing so.
I totally agree especially about cabin fever. But when people comment on equipment they do not have and state it as fact and not opinion, it confuses the people looking for help. As far as I can tell I was the only one with a Silverback that was commenting in this thread.
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Old 02-28-2015, 10:10 PM   #26
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I totally agree especially about cabin fever. But when people comment on equipment they do not have and state it as fact and not opinion, it confuses the people looking for help. As far as I can tell I was the only one with a Silverback that was commenting in this thread.
Im a newbie. Bought my first 5th wheel at the end of last summer. I was worried that I might need a slider. My truck has a 6.5 foot bed. Bought a used non slider to get me by and Im glad I did. Now Im new to towing a 5th wheel however I have tons of experience with bumper pulls. I don't have a Silver back either but I can tell you for a fact, Ive had my truck at 90 degrees just to see if it would do it and I was nowhere near hitting the cab. Although I was paying close attention to what I was doing and I think thats key.
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Old 03-01-2015, 10:33 AM   #27
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My humble opinion is if you have a short bed truck 6.5 bed or less buy a slider hitch.

You may never know when you need one until you need the hitch. It is better to be safe than sorry and have a cab window busted and damage to the cab sheet metal and camper. This is like insurance you do not need the insurance until you have an accident and if you do not have insurance it is too late.

I am on my third fiver now being pulled by a 2008 Ram Mega Cab this has the 6.5 bed and both of my two previous campers have had the 88 deg turning corners or better. I still use my manual slider hitch when backing up into camp sites and my driveway better safe than sorry.
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This is what happens when the old "TOWING" subject comes up. No true factual statements are made. Just your experience. Just everyone's opinion. I guess if a person wants to take the opinion of someone, and their experience, instead of researching this info from qualified resources, so be it. That's why it is very confusing for newbies. Again I say, not on the FRF. NOT, towing info. That's my opinion from reading so many of these "Opinions" and "experiences" that are argued. Flip the coin and hope nothing happens.
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This is what happens when the old "TOWING" subject comes up. No true factual statements are made. Just your experience. Just everyone's opinion. I guess if a person wants to take the opinion of someone, and their experience, instead of researching this info from qualified resources, so be it. That's why it is very confusing for newbies. Again I say, not on the FRF. NOT, towing info. That's my opinion from reading so many of these "Opinions" and "experiences" that are argued. Flip the coin and hope nothing happens.
This started with the Claim FR made saying that a Silverback turning radius is 88 degrees. There is no misinformation there it is on the sticker of the cab. Planly states Max turning 88 degrees nothing there at all to misinterpret. What has been suggested to the OP nobody else is that it is best to have a slider or sidewinder. for tight spots or single ln. roads that you might need more then the 88 and even more then 90 degrees to move your trailer. And as far as a couple post ago a member said that he didn't need one to turn 90 degrees but his unit was a 1982 or 1984, when the caps where much more square and didn't think of aerodynamics at that time. 90% of the members stated it better to have then not to have. The OP can get what he wants that is up to him. All forums are based on experience and what is on the market. I have to turn over 90 degrees to get in my driveway. No hype just if I didn't have it my cab and window would have been broken along time ago plus the Damage to the Cap...We just have to agree to disagree, It's the OP question and let him read the opinions on the subject.....
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This started with the Claim FR made saying that a Silverback turning radius is 88 degrees. There is no misinformation there it is on the sticker of the cab. Planly states Max turning 88 degrees nothing there at all to misinterpret. What has been suggested to the OP nobody else is that it is best to have a slider or sidewinder. for tight spots or single ln. roads that you might need more then the 88 and even more then 90 degrees to move your trailer. And as far as a couple post ago a member said that he didn't need one to turn 90 degrees but his unit was a 1982 or 1984, when the caps where much more square and didn't think of aerodynamics at that time. 90% of the members stated it better to have then not to have. The OP can get what he wants that is up to him. All forums are based on experience and what is on the market. I have to turn over 90 degrees to get in my driveway. No hype just if I didn't have it my cab and window would have been broken along time ago plus the Damage to the Cap...We just have to agree to disagree, It's the OP question and let him read the opinions on the subject.....
I totally agree with you, but do you not see why this is frustrating to a newbie. I agree on extra insurance, but how can a person be confident when there is so much disagreement. Yes, there is more for than against, but does that mean we go with the majority? Some say tow vehicles are ok at a close tow range, some say no. That is why I say qualified techs for this type of info. Not salesman of course. This type of subject is too dangerous for opinion or experience. Some say they have towed over mountains with tow ranges close to exact or just over. Is that ok? What should one do?
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