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Old 05-09-2016, 07:00 PM   #11
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Hmmm... seems even the Roo 233S has a heavy hitch weight > 600 lbs. Odd as I see Burbs pulling them with seemingly no problems. Our PUP even with 3500 GVWR with tongue weight and gear probably exceeds that 1291 number. We have a WD hitch on it though. Would that help if I used a WD system for the 28DBUD or 233S Roo?
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Old 05-10-2016, 08:35 AM   #12
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My wife and I have a 2015 28DBUD and HAD a 2004 Avalanche. It had the 5.3L and 3.73 rear and when we upgraded, we got the same thing, oh yeah this is plenty enough truck for this trailer. It wasn't and we have since upgraded to a HEMI Ram. The suspension handled it pretty ok, but the motor was SORELY lacking, plus the Transmission in them is a light duty Tranny. We did have to do a rebuild on it, and it seemed like every time we pulled the camper, something on the truck broke. The DBUD is an awesome floor plan and we love ours, so for us, upgrading the truck was the best option and we couldn't be happier. My suggestion is to get the camper you want and upgrade the truck. My sister and brother in law bought a trailer they weren't that thrilled with due to the tow capacity of their TV at the time, and are so un happy with the trailer 3 years later, but would be so upside down on trade, they are kind of "stuck".
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Old 05-10-2016, 08:43 AM   #13
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My 2005 Suburban pulled a Cherokee Grey Wolf 21RR with no problems for 3 years until I upgraded truck and went to a fifth wheel.
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:08 AM   #14
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What is truly sad is my Cadillac CTS actually has more cargo capacity than a 2009 Suburban LTZ. That is a sad statement. I assume WD won't help much. Oh well, I have been looking to trade my CTS on a Silverado anyway. Probably go diesel and 2500HD or 3500HD. Don't think I need a dually even if I get a 5er someday. DW doesn't like the look of the duallies...
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What is truly sad is my Cadillac CTS actually has more cargo capacity than a 2009 Suburban LTZ. That is a sad statement. I assume WD won't help much. Oh well, I have been looking to trade my CTS on a Silverado anyway. Probably go diesel and 2500HD or 3500HD. Don't think I need a dually even if I get a 5er someday. DW doesn't like the look of the duallies...
I think you are are the right track with 1291 Payload and 850lbs in people that leaves you 441 lbs for tongue weight.

I would look for for 350/3500 1 ton truck if you planning on 5th wheel since the 250/2500 will run out payload when you include your 850 lbs of passengers. I would look for truck with at least 3500lbs in cargo capacity.
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I also think the 1291 number comes from the OEM tires, and not what is on there now, which are load rated 111. That would portend to a heavier load potential, but I still think a different TV is going to be required. I can't afford to replace transmissions on the Burb and it's out go-to family vehicle. It's a shame really that GM didn't build these with stout enough specs and too much like a huge car instead of a truck like they once were years ago.
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It might come from the tires, but there is more to it than that. They are built on the same frame as the Silverado 1500, but are typically a couple of hundred pounds heavier which also reduces payload. Also, they are coil springs in the rear vs. leaf springs, so I bet this reduces payload as well.

I have an 08 Escalade ESV (6.2L, 6L80E, and 3.42 G80 rear) with similar specs as yours (except for the motor). I pull a 26RR toy hauler (700 hitch weight, 6800 trailer weight) and I am right up against my payload spec (1300) when we are just loaded with people. It pulls the trailer without any problem from a start/stop standpoint, but to stay legal, we carry any cargo in the trailer. I run a WD hitch and get about 1.5" of sag with the air shocks in the rear. In all, if I keep it around 60-65MPH on the highway, it is not a bad towing experience.
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Old 05-10-2016, 01:42 PM   #18
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OK found out the Burb weighs 5935 at the curb. GVWR is 7400, subtract 150lb driver (yeah right) and gas and other fluids and very close to 1291. Makes sense now. Game over on this puppy. Truck time!
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I also think the 1291 number comes from the OEM tires, and not what is on there now, which are load rated 111. That would portend to a heavier load potential, but I still think a different TV is going to be required. I can't afford to replace transmissions on the Burb and it's out go-to family vehicle. It's a shame really that GM didn't build these with stout enough specs and too much like a huge car instead of a truck like they once were years ago.
If it has the 4L60E in it, you would be surprised by how little it costs to rebuild them. Parts are plentiful because as I was told, its not IF, but when, it goes bad. Mine took a crap around 118,000 miles. The rebuilds they do on them actually makes them a lot stronger internally than stock, but with the 5.3L, it doesn't make a hill of beans.....
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OK found out the Burb weighs 5935 at the curb. GVWR is 7400, subtract 150lb driver (yeah right) and gas and other fluids and very close to 1291. Makes sense now. Game over on this puppy. Truck time!
My mechanic also told me that especially on the 03-06, the rear end isn't all that heavy duty, so they have a tendency to grenade under load. Mine had the 3.73 rear and G80 locker. I have seen a lot of people swap in an H2 rear on the Avalanche forums (when I was a member) but the Silverado, Avalanche, and Suburban shared the same drive train.
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