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Old 01-07-2019, 02:45 AM   #11
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Most people buy way too much truck just to feel safer. Look at the pull weight and trucks rating. As long as you setup correctly and arent over capacity it will work safely. Most of your concern should be in the setup of whatever you use. I pulled my 2715 5500 miles cross country this summer with a 17 silverado 1500 LTZ max tow 6.2l. Yes there were 50 mph gusts across the plains and semi's doing 85 blowing by creating some sway. But the airbags and bilstien shocks did the trick and it pulls confidently. Worst part are some of the bridge expansion joints.
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Old 01-07-2019, 05:18 AM   #12
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Most people buy way too much truck just to feel safer. Look at the pull weight and trucks rating. As long as you setup correctly and arent over capacity it will work safely. Most of your concern should be in the setup of whatever you use. I pulled my 2715 5500 miles cross country this summer with a 17 silverado 1500 LTZ max tow 6.2l. Yes there were 50 mph gusts across the plains and semi's doing 85 blowing by creating some sway. But the airbags and bilstien shocks did the trick and it pulls confidently. Worst part are some of the bridge expansion joints.
That is a misconception. Being under the TV capacities in no way guarantees sway stability and good handling (safety). While it’s a good start if a trailer has a high tendency to sway you can end up with a poor combination and be under the ratings. You see it all the time on the forums.
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Old 01-07-2019, 06:38 AM   #13
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I'm not brand loyal to anything. I've owned Ram/Ford/Nissan and GM trucks.
This last purchase I compared all three 3/4 gassers (and the Nissan HD but it didn't have enough payload).

I liked the Ford but my 2016 Ford was lemon lawed because they are having trouble with door locks and actuators with the new aluminum bodies in cold climates-they still don't have a fix for this yet so I ruled that truck out. Totally sucks having a truck you can't get into or the door won't latch closed if you do get it open.

I liked the Ram also...the storage ideas are great. The truck feels strong empty but I didn't care for the transmission ratios (very high speed before getting to the shift points even with the 4.10 rear). -This is probably why the much weaker on paper GM 6.0 out pulls it on the biggest grades.

GM...The 6.0 has the lowest hp and torque numbers. The motor is a solid as it gets, iron block, deep skirt and smooth as glass at any RPM. I read about a guy who delivers things for a living with his 6.0, he just passed 500,000 miles with only replacing a water pump and two alternators (it may have been two water pumps and one alternator).

I hauled my trailer (toyhauler) with two motorcycles in it (about 9,500lbs), two kayaks on the truck rack, two bicycles, generator, grill, chairs and everything else one doesn't need over 5,000 miles last year across the windy plains and on the eastern mountains. I went with the Chevy 6.0 and if I had to do it again today I would replace the truck with the same truck.

Good luck.
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Old 01-07-2019, 07:19 AM   #14
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For me i needed a 2500. Gas vs diesel for me, gas has won. I based this on fuel prices as i can run e85 and cost per mile was cheaper, now i break even vs 87. I live in a area where 80% of my driving is 100ft red lights. Payload is more on gas than diesel in the 2500. Could have gone 3500 but cant register it as passanger vehicle and 90% of the hwys i drive on are parkways and no commercial vehicles are allowed.

I have a 15 2500 silverado. She pulls my 10klb+ tt perfectly with equalizer 4 wdh and air bags. Wish my mpg was better but what ya gonna do. This year i bought a golf cart and we will see how she pulls tt with cart in bed. Might do a supercharger if she lacks the power in the mountains as i am maxing out payload.
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Old 01-07-2019, 07:36 AM   #15
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caution on the Ram

I had the ram 2500 with the 6.4 and Although I liked the motor, the package as a whole was not the best setup for towing HEavy IMHO. Now 8K will probably be fairly tolerable, but if you decide to go much more than that then you will definitley want the 4:10 rear end (almost any of the ones you find on the lot will be a 3:73 rear end). The transmission is geared fast, and the gap between 1st and 2nd is large and can show its ugly face in certain situations, like trying to take off on a long uphill where it screams it guts out in first, and then shifts into second and wont hold it and fals back into first and then you get that back and forth crap shoot until it levels out. I enjoyed mine pulling 6500 pounds, I did not enjoy it towing 10K pounds. This is all personal preference of course. If I were to get a new 3/4 ton gasser right now it would be the 2017 or newer f-250 hands down.
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Old 01-07-2019, 07:41 AM   #16
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Planning to upgrade my tow vehicle (2010 F150 SCrew 4x4 w max tow pkg) to 3/4 ton gasser. TT is 2014 Coachmen FE LE 31BHDS, 35 ft long, approx. 8000# as towed. I been fairly satisfied with even the old 5.4 as far as powertrain goes, so I am considering all 3 mfr.s trucks equally. I am wondering if anyone out there has experience towing a similar TT with two or all three of the 3/4 ton trucks (recent models) in terms of handling the trailer on the interstate with semis, crosswinds, etc. to see if they are going to be equal in that regard. Thanks,

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Well I've towed with 2 of the 3 trucks. I have a 35 ft tt fully loaded weight 9000
#. I had a 2015 2500 Chevy with6.0 and 4:10 gear. Pulled the tt like a champ. could walk right up grades at 62mph high rpm but thats what they are made to do. Bugs some folks but thats the way it is. My new truck is a Ram 2500 6.4 with 3:73 gear and it also tows this tt just fine. It also will walk right up grades at 62mph and no issues. Here again the RPM may get a bit high. The trucks towed the tt with very slight say when 18 wheels pass but not that big issue. Cross winds no issues. The 2500s are good tow vehicles and my new Ram rides smoother than the Chevy did. Later RJD
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:28 AM   #17
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Most people buy way too much truck just to feel safer.
Dang right
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:35 AM   #18
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:55 AM   #19
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I can tell you that my previous truck was a 2013 F250 4x4 crew cab with the camper package and plow package 6.2 liter. For 10,000 pounds or less you can't beat the Ford with the 6.2 engine, keep in mind it is a short stroke block so it makes its power in the higher RPMs, but if you let her scream it's a power house. The only reason I traded to a Ram 3500 dually was my new trailer is 43' long and weighs 15,500 - needed that diesel power pulling through the mountains.
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:02 AM   #20
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1. If you're not pulling 10k pounds or more the diesel isn't needed.

2. The overall lifetime cost of a gasser is cheaper.

3. And, the gasser will have a higher payload compared to an identical, diesel powered truck.

Those were my reason.

While I agree with what you are saying, the overall lifetime cost of a diesel is higher for the first few years of ownership, but many guys put 300-400k miles on these trucks and many keep a diesel for a longer period. For the people in these two groups, the lifetime cost of the diesel is much lower. In my case, I would trade gas trucks every 2-3 years, but with my diesel truck I am planning to keep it for 10+ years.
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