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01-15-2019, 10:26 PM
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#141
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clarkbre
I agree. For a 3/4 or 1 ton, the Chevy 6.0, Ford 6.2 and Ram 6.4 would be the way to go for a gasser.
The 5.7 is an awesome engine but, as with every engine, it does have it's limits.
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Eight point one!
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01-15-2019, 10:59 PM
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#142
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Denver To Yuma In 90 Days
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Location: Yuma, Arizona
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A friend of mine had the 5.7L Hemi on a 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 and I had the 5.9L Magnum V8 in my 1996 Dodge Ram 1500.
He asked me one day if I wanted to trade motors...
He previously had a 1995 Dodge with the 5.9L Magnum like mine and told me that the Hemi sounded good and was great for drag racing, but the Magnum was a much better towing engine.
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01-15-2019, 11:05 PM
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#143
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Denver To Yuma In 90 Days
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beachbourbon
Eight point one!
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Why even bother bringing up a motor that isn't even made anymore?
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01-15-2019, 11:09 PM
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#144
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Senior Member
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Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnD10
Why even bother bringing up a motor that isn't even made anymore?
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And a motor that is out of date and low tech! My 3.5 Ecoboost develops more HP and torque at lower RPMS than that one.
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01-16-2019, 05:30 AM
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#145
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: FLORIDA
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WOW. So much information to try to take in. A little over a year ago I bought a camp light truck camper and a 2018 dodge ram 4 x 4 6.4 hemi. Truck camper weight is around 3000 pounds and I also tow my 22 foot bay boat which also weighs around the 3000 pound mark. My truck has the 373 gears from the factory and did a pretty good job taking it to wherever I wanted to go. The only thing I added were aftermarket airbags which made all the difference in the world. I had plans to purchase a toy hauler so I knew I had to do some research. After reviewing many dodge ram forums, it was obvious to me that the 373 gears were just not going to do the job. I upgraded my gears to 456. According to the numbers, this was going to allow me to tow a pretty big fifth wheel. Recently, a little over a week ago, I purchased my new toy hauler. Now that it is a little over 14,000 pounds I expected it to be a little bit tougher to tow. Time will tell if my decisions I made will do the job. Upgrading the gears was a hell of a lot cheaper than buying a new truck. Even with such a big toy hauler, all the numbers from the factory considered, towing capability, payload, etc., it works out that the truck should safely tow. After the gear break in, I picked up my toy hauler. My truck easily towed the toy hauler down the road cruise control set at 65 mph here in Florida and also was getting about 9 miles to the gallon. Crazy as it seems that’s about 1 mile per gallon better than with my truck camper and boat set up. Taking it out for its break in the camping trip this weekend so I will see what happens.
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01-16-2019, 08:42 AM
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#146
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Denver To Yuma In 90 Days
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BOB 37RTH
WOW. So much information to try to take in. A little over a year ago I bought a camp light truck camper and a 2018 dodge ram 4 x 4 6.4 hemi.
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Ram 1500, 2500 or 3500?
SRW or DRW?
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01-16-2019, 08:44 AM
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#147
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Senior Member
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I own a Cummins but I did own a 2014 F150 with an Eco-boost and I would wager money that put against your 8.1 with the same trailer you would be impressed as it pulled away from you!!!
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01-16-2019, 09:46 AM
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#148
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Junior Member
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Location: FLORIDA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnd10
ram 1500, 2500 or 3500?
Srw or drw?
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ram 2500 srw
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01-16-2019, 09:53 AM
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#149
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the chevy 8.1 though not made anymore was a great engine . the work horse it will be around in older trucks for a long time . the eco boost has the power no doubt but longevity is yet to be determined . lots of stress for a little 3.5 the turbo add lots of heat and stress . the chevy 6.0 is a pulling monster 300,000 plus mileage engine . i hope the new 2020 2500hd with the supposed new 6.6 gas is built as tough . i head over ike/jonhson passes twice a year no issues going up or down . easier heading west, east bound is steeper . either way the tunnel, vail pass , rabbit ears , the 6.0 pulls away . from Florida to Yellowstone have no issues getting gas pulling a 29hsf at 33'11". A good test for pulling is heading over the grand mesa from I-70 up 65 .
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01-16-2019, 12:06 PM
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#150
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Senior Member
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Location: Greensboro NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MR.M
the chevy 8.1 though not made anymore was a great engine . the work horse it will be around in older trucks for a long time . the eco boost has the power no doubt but longevity is yet to be determined . lots of stress for a little 3.5 the turbo add lots of heat and stress . the chevy 6.0 is a pulling monster 300,000 plus mileage engine . i hope the new 2020 2500hd with the supposed new 6.6 gas is built as tough . i head over ike/jonhson passes twice a year no issues going up or down . easier heading west, east bound is steeper . either way the tunnel, vail pass , rabbit ears , the 6.0 pulls away . from Florida to Yellowstone have no issues getting gas pulling a 29hsf at 33'11". A good test for pulling is heading over the grand mesa from I-70 up 65 .
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The 6.0 is not a pulling monster, The HP and torque numbers just do not support that compared to other gassers. What it does have is good transmission gearing parred with a good rear ratio, The engine on it's own merits is seriously out performed by newer offerings.
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01-16-2019, 12:17 PM
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#151
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ronheater70
The 6.0 is not a pulling monster, The HP and torque numbers just do not support that compared to other gassers. What it does have is good transmission gearing parred with a good rear ratio, The engine on it's own merits is seriously out performed by newer offerings.
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Well you are entitled to your opinion . since i haul my 29 hsf 9300,lbs loaded across country twice a year for the last 4 yrs along with all the other hauling it's done for me over the last 13 yrs with out issues , up or down grades flat or hilly . It is a pulling monster . i would rather have this 15 year old truck then a new ram 6.4 pos or the ford 3.5 eco . I can't wait to see how many miles people get out of their 3.5 hauling 9300 lbs . let see if this eco can out last the pulling monster the 6.0 is at a mere 187,000 it's just starting to get broke in . unlike fords and rams that get broke up lmao just joking really fords are ok
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01-16-2019, 12:38 PM
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#152
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by babock
And a motor that is out of date and low tech! My 3.5 Ecoboost develops more HP and torque at lower RPMS than that turd.
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Back in its days it was better than any ford. Mine had the 5 speed Allison and could out pull any gaser back in its day. Later RJD
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01-16-2019, 12:43 PM
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#153
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
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Location: GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clarkbre
I've never seen a Ford Ecoboost advertisement focused solely to sell to "little girls". Seems counter-productive to their marketing scheme as "Little Girls" likely:
1. Are not of driving age making them younger than 16 years old.
2. Do not have the means of income or credit to purchase such a vehicle...because they are so young.
Sources cited:
8.1L:
340 hp @ 4200 RPM
455 ft lbs of torque @ 3200 RPM
2002 GMC Yukon Brochure Page 1
3.5L Ecoboost:
375 hp @ 5000 RPM
470 ft lbs of torque @ 3500 RPM
2018 F150 Brochure Page 6
I can also speak first hand to the MPG of the Ecoboost. My '11 very consistently got 19 mpg empty running 65 mph down the highway. Towing was a consistent 9 mpg towing a 7500 lbs travel trailer. This was all while running a leveling kit with 33" tires and the speedometer calibrated. With the larger tires, the effective gear ratio was 3.43.
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And for a truck that old not bad compared to Ecoboost. Later RJD
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2018 Dodge Ram 2500 6.4 3:73 gearing. Traded 2015 Chevy 2500 6.0, 4:10
Traded 2015 30WRLIKS V-Lite
Days camped 2019 62
Days camped 2020 49 days camped 2021-74 2022-40 days 2023 5 days
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01-16-2019, 01:20 PM
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#154
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Senior Member
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Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aceinspp
And for a truck that old not bad compared to Ecoboost. Later RJD
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Yep...not bad for an OLD truck! Of course that's why you can find them cheap. Not great power compared to today's offerings and 11MPG not towing anything.
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01-16-2019, 02:28 PM
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#155
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Greensboro NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MR.M
Well you are entitled to your opinion . since i haul my 29 hsf 9300,lbs loaded across country twice a year for the last 4 yrs along with all the other hauling it's done for me over the last 13 yrs with out issues , up or down grades flat or hilly . It is a pulling monster . i would rather have this 15 year old truck then a new ram 6.4 pos or the ford 3.5 eco . I can't wait to see how many miles people get out of their 3.5 hauling 9300 lbs . let see if this eco can out last the pulling monster the 6.0 is at a mere 187,000 it's just starting to get broke in . unlike fords and rams that get broke up lmao just joking really fords are ok
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Yea, nope. it's not the motor, its the package (which is very good BTW) that makes up for the motors shortcomings. After all A lawnmower can pull several thousand pounds.
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01-16-2019, 02:34 PM
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#156
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Insert witty title here
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Here I am thinking about trucks when in reality, all I need is my John Deere.
Whodathunkit.
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01-16-2019, 03:06 PM
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#157
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Senior Member
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Location: Greensboro NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timfromma
Here I am thinking about trucks when in reality, all I need is my John Deere.
Whodathunkit.
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Yuck, John Deere? Massey all the way!
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01-16-2019, 03:33 PM
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#158
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I went to the moon
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01-16-2019, 04:09 PM
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#159
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ronheater70
Yea, nope. it's not the motor, its the package (which is very good BTW) that makes up for the motors shortcomings. After all A lawnmower can pull several thousand pounds.
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. I knew i kept my craftsmen 1000 lt riding mower for a reason . Now i can use it as a back up
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01-16-2019, 06:08 PM
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#160
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Senior Member
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Good things
Iv'e heard very good things about the ram 6.4 gasser,and the longer the wheelbase the better...
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