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Old 01-15-2019, 10:26 PM   #141
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I agree. For a 3/4 or 1 ton, the Chevy 6.0, Ford 6.2 and Ram 6.4 would be the way to go for a gasser.

The 5.7 is an awesome engine but, as with every engine, it does have it's limits.
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Old 01-15-2019, 10:59 PM   #142
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A friend of mine had the 5.7L Hemi on a 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 and I had the 5.9L Magnum V8 in my 1996 Dodge Ram 1500.

He asked me one day if I wanted to trade motors...

He previously had a 1995 Dodge with the 5.9L Magnum like mine and told me that the Hemi sounded good and was great for drag racing, but the Magnum was a much better towing engine.

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Old 01-15-2019, 11:05 PM   #143
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Eight point one!
Why even bother bringing up a motor that isn't even made anymore?
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Old 01-15-2019, 11:09 PM   #144
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Why even bother bringing up a motor that isn't even made anymore?
And a motor that is out of date and low tech! My 3.5 Ecoboost develops more HP and torque at lower RPMS than that one.
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WOW. So much information to try to take in. A little over a year ago I bought a camp light truck camper and a 2018 dodge ram 4 x 4 6.4 hemi. Truck camper weight is around 3000 pounds and I also tow my 22 foot bay boat which also weighs around the 3000 pound mark. My truck has the 373 gears from the factory and did a pretty good job taking it to wherever I wanted to go. The only thing I added were aftermarket airbags which made all the difference in the world. I had plans to purchase a toy hauler so I knew I had to do some research. After reviewing many dodge ram forums, it was obvious to me that the 373 gears were just not going to do the job. I upgraded my gears to 456. According to the numbers, this was going to allow me to tow a pretty big fifth wheel. Recently, a little over a week ago, I purchased my new toy hauler. Now that it is a little over 14,000 pounds I expected it to be a little bit tougher to tow. Time will tell if my decisions I made will do the job. Upgrading the gears was a hell of a lot cheaper than buying a new truck. Even with such a big toy hauler, all the numbers from the factory considered, towing capability, payload, etc., it works out that the truck should safely tow. After the gear break in, I picked up my toy hauler. My truck easily towed the toy hauler down the road cruise control set at 65 mph here in Florida and also was getting about 9 miles to the gallon. Crazy as it seems that’s about 1 mile per gallon better than with my truck camper and boat set up. Taking it out for its break in the camping trip this weekend so I will see what happens.
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WOW. So much information to try to take in. A little over a year ago I bought a camp light truck camper and a 2018 dodge ram 4 x 4 6.4 hemi.
Ram 1500, 2500 or 3500?

SRW or DRW?
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Old 01-16-2019, 08:44 AM   #147
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I own a Cummins but I did own a 2014 F150 with an Eco-boost and I would wager money that put against your 8.1 with the same trailer you would be impressed as it pulled away from you!!!
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ram 1500, 2500 or 3500?

Srw or drw?
ram 2500 srw
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the chevy 8.1 though not made anymore was a great engine . the work horse it will be around in older trucks for a long time . the eco boost has the power no doubt but longevity is yet to be determined . lots of stress for a little 3.5 the turbo add lots of heat and stress . the chevy 6.0 is a pulling monster 300,000 plus mileage engine . i hope the new 2020 2500hd with the supposed new 6.6 gas is built as tough . i head over ike/jonhson passes twice a year no issues going up or down . easier heading west, east bound is steeper . either way the tunnel, vail pass , rabbit ears , the 6.0 pulls away . from Florida to Yellowstone have no issues getting gas pulling a 29hsf at 33'11". A good test for pulling is heading over the grand mesa from I-70 up 65 .
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the chevy 8.1 though not made anymore was a great engine . the work horse it will be around in older trucks for a long time . the eco boost has the power no doubt but longevity is yet to be determined . lots of stress for a little 3.5 the turbo add lots of heat and stress . the chevy 6.0 is a pulling monster 300,000 plus mileage engine . i hope the new 2020 2500hd with the supposed new 6.6 gas is built as tough . i head over ike/jonhson passes twice a year no issues going up or down . easier heading west, east bound is steeper . either way the tunnel, vail pass , rabbit ears , the 6.0 pulls away . from Florida to Yellowstone have no issues getting gas pulling a 29hsf at 33'11". A good test for pulling is heading over the grand mesa from I-70 up 65 .
The 6.0 is not a pulling monster, The HP and torque numbers just do not support that compared to other gassers. What it does have is good transmission gearing parred with a good rear ratio, The engine on it's own merits is seriously out performed by newer offerings.
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The 6.0 is not a pulling monster, The HP and torque numbers just do not support that compared to other gassers. What it does have is good transmission gearing parred with a good rear ratio, The engine on it's own merits is seriously out performed by newer offerings.
Well you are entitled to your opinion . since i haul my 29 hsf 9300,lbs loaded across country twice a year for the last 4 yrs along with all the other hauling it's done for me over the last 13 yrs with out issues , up or down grades flat or hilly . It is a pulling monster . i would rather have this 15 year old truck then a new ram 6.4 pos or the ford 3.5 eco . I can't wait to see how many miles people get out of their 3.5 hauling 9300 lbs . let see if this eco can out last the pulling monster the 6.0 is at a mere 187,000 it's just starting to get broke in . unlike fords and rams that get broke up lmao just joking really fords are ok
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And a motor that is out of date and low tech! My 3.5 Ecoboost develops more HP and torque at lower RPMS than that turd.
Back in its days it was better than any ford. Mine had the 5 speed Allison and could out pull any gaser back in its day. Later RJD
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:43 PM   #153
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I've never seen a Ford Ecoboost advertisement focused solely to sell to "little girls". Seems counter-productive to their marketing scheme as "Little Girls" likely:

1. Are not of driving age making them younger than 16 years old.
2. Do not have the means of income or credit to purchase such a vehicle...because they are so young.





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3.5L Ecoboost:
375 hp @ 5000 RPM
470 ft lbs of torque @ 3500 RPM
2018 F150 Brochure Page 6

I can also speak first hand to the MPG of the Ecoboost. My '11 very consistently got 19 mpg empty running 65 mph down the highway. Towing was a consistent 9 mpg towing a 7500 lbs travel trailer. This was all while running a leveling kit with 33" tires and the speedometer calibrated. With the larger tires, the effective gear ratio was 3.43.

And for a truck that old not bad compared to Ecoboost. Later RJD
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And for a truck that old not bad compared to Ecoboost. Later RJD
Yep...not bad for an OLD truck! Of course that's why you can find them cheap. Not great power compared to today's offerings and 11MPG not towing anything.
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Well you are entitled to your opinion . since i haul my 29 hsf 9300,lbs loaded across country twice a year for the last 4 yrs along with all the other hauling it's done for me over the last 13 yrs with out issues , up or down grades flat or hilly . It is a pulling monster . i would rather have this 15 year old truck then a new ram 6.4 pos or the ford 3.5 eco . I can't wait to see how many miles people get out of their 3.5 hauling 9300 lbs . let see if this eco can out last the pulling monster the 6.0 is at a mere 187,000 it's just starting to get broke in . unlike fords and rams that get broke up lmao just joking really fords are ok
Yea, nope. it's not the motor, its the package (which is very good BTW) that makes up for the motors shortcomings. After all A lawnmower can pull several thousand pounds.
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Here I am thinking about trucks when in reality, all I need is my John Deere.

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Here I am thinking about trucks when in reality, all I need is my John Deere.

Whodathunkit.
Yuck, John Deere? Massey all the way!
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Yea, nope. it's not the motor, its the package (which is very good BTW) that makes up for the motors shortcomings. After all A lawnmower can pull several thousand pounds.
. I knew i kept my craftsmen 1000 lt riding mower for a reason . Now i can use it as a back up
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Iv'e heard very good things about the ram 6.4 gasser,and the longer the wheelbase the better...
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